Didn't like the ending to much, kinda weird....so what do my fellow losties think about it?

unlucky7 said:

I think I am gonna rewatch it when it reairs later tonight. I was not paying all that much attention to it as I was busy with other stuff.

The ending made me so "lost".

Interesting season finale. Though Im starting to sit on the fence with this show.

Im just not groovin on the "everyone is connected somehow theory". Maybe cause I dont see anyway to make the connection plausible.

Michael and Walt could leave and never return as far as im concerned...I just dont care for the storyline. Though I doubt this will happen cause of how "special" Walt is.

Do the Others even live on the island?

Did Penny put a tracker on Desmonds Boat and once the Electomagnatic thing blew, was able to receive signals?

For all reasons Ecko should be dead, That explosion would have killed him.

Maybe this show is actually written down and everything is going to end up making sense in the end, but with every question answered it just seems more and more anti climatic.

lazycrockett said:

No, that doesn't appear to be the case. The computer screen at the end displayed the message "7418880 Electromagnetic Anomaly Detected"... So whatever they were hunting for seems connected to the hatch/button and not Desmond's boat.

As far as the finale itself is concerned... I actually thought it was very good - within the structure of how Lost is presented, anyway.

There's something about the pacing of the show that gets on my nerves. The ideas/events and the presentation of them is often 'spot on' but the way they are spread out is just a bit too tedious for me. They play it like it's a daily show where they have to make things stretch as long as possible to fill out a week, if you know what I mean.

Also, it just occurred to me that the episodes we are seeing are all still supposed to be taking place back in 2004, right? We could make it to the end of the 3rd season without ever reaching January 2005 for them.


On a personal note I'm still not happy about Libby. I liked her and was curious to learn and see more about her character beyond just a simply flashback or two.

Oh yeah and... "Pala Ferry"?


grrrrr argh.
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Anyone else think that Libby is a twin? The hair, the different name...

I am very, very, very upset that the hatch is blown up. Extremely upset. Especially because Desmond discovered that he had crashed their plane...and Locke still did not listen. What are they going to do now about food, medicine, etc? Not to mention a holding cell for people like Henry. It's bullshit. They have definitely written themselves into a hole with that twist.

Maybe the electromagnetic force will be enough to be detected by others, like those guys in the research center, and someone will try to find them.

I think that Mike, Kate, Jack, Sawyer, and Hurley all worked out a plan after Mike's confession. We didn't hear his plan because it cut away before Jack could reveal it. That's why Mike gave them that look, and why they all gave each other that eerie look before having their heads covered. So I think that Mike and Walt will either go back and help them (or find Sayid first) or they will get "rescued" and figure out a way to help them from there. I really would like to see what Henry means by them getting rescued.

I have a problem with Henry being the one on his way to our people's hatch. If he is the leader of this whole thing, wouldn't he either a) take someone with him or b) send someone else to do the dirty work?

And the connection between the foreign guys in the research center, and Desmond's ex is really screwing with my head. Maybe her father was part of the Dharma thing and somehow she knew Desmond would end up there b/c he was so adamant on making him "disappear"? Remember she said she has so much money and could therefore find anyone. But by turning the key in the hatch, did Desmond blow himself up? I hope not - I hope that somehow he survived it. I liked his character.

AND...do you think that maybe the plane crash was something that Desmond's "partner" set up? As in, he led Desmond outside and away from the numbers so that they would run out and therefore crash the plane.

I liked the finale, in that they really revealed a lot of things, but at the same time, I'm very, very upset about the hatch being destroyed. Now it makes sense that Echo was so adamant about pushing the numbers - he has a great intuition. Locke is just stubborn and selfish. I really cannot forgive his character for doing that.

lazycrockett said:

Ecko should be dead just becuase his character is a one dimensional tiresome role.

I liked the last episode, but I need to rewatch it again--too much going on.

yeah, Ekco is always beating people...he made locke cry.

JustErin said:

I have to say I liked the Finale a lot. I think it "grounded" the show. To me it now has more forward direction in story line that it did. It's no longer about trying to figure out whats going on in wonderment. It's about survival and figuring out who these other folks are and what they are doing.

They also made good on their promises to answer all the burning questions like What caused the plane to crash, what happens when the countdown reaches 0, Walt&Michael resolution and where desmond went. Of course now we have a few more ??? to answer, but that was expected.

I'm still trying to mull it over in my mind. So many things to ponder. Like the new plot of Penny Widmore trying to find Desmond or the island. See I have had a feeling that while we have been focused on the island and the Losties, there has been an entire other story happening in the background. Mainly the goings on of The Hanso Foundation and the Widmore Family, which owns Hanso amongst other companies (I also think that Sun's Father works for a Widmore Corporation).

Next Season is going to focus more on the Others and their story as well as the Widmore Family, which will be cool. I am now starting to wonder if things like exploring LOST outside of the TV show is almost essential to understanding what is going on. I hope not, because the show should stand on it's own. But I feel as though it definitely gives some insight that isn't exactly apparent on the show.

ANyway I liked it and can't wait for next season.

superspaceboy said:

Your post helped me out a lot.

And Jerseykrs...yer a fool.

thescandalouslife said:

JustErin said:

jerseykrs said:

I thought I would post the Entertainment Weekly Review...It gives LOTS of insight and appears to have caught almost everything.

by Scott Brown


Well, they've really done it now.

I've figured out what the Lost writers have been up to all this season. It's very simple, really. They've been trying to make us hate Charlie. And they have succeeded. Admirably. Let's say two people you've been close to — father figures, brother figures, whatever — appear to have been incinerated in an electromagnetic plot meltdown. What do you do? A. Break down. B. Go into shock. C. Quip cheerfully and canoodle with that girl you've been crushing on. I'm willing to give Charlie the benefit of the doubt and postulate that C was tempered with B in this case. But c'mon, Brandybuck: I know the apparent annihilation of the Big Men means you can now claim full manhood and all, in the Oedipal sense, but what happened to your brain in that purple haze? Did it cook?

I know mine did. Holy Other of God, what a finale. I was up, I was down, I was frustrated, I was thrilled, and finally I was...well, a bit numb. Let's retrace our steps and try to make sense of this. (Ha!)

We begin with deus ex sailboat. It turns out the watercraft from last episode belongs to Desmond, the Hatch refugee we met way back at the beginning of the season. Now we get his flashback: The prison time, the dishonorable discharge from the British military, the copy of Dickens' Our Mutual Friend he totes around for rather obscure reasons. (Desmond has read everything by Dickens, but he's saving the author's final opus to make sure it's the last thing he ever reads.) And, of course, the woman.

Penny Widmore's her name, daughter of Charles. In the show's ancillary mythology, Charles Widmore is a bazillionaire with ties to the Hanso Foundation and, thus, the Dharma Initiative. He didn't approve of his daughter's relationship with Desmond, so he did everything he could to pry them apart, up to and including confiscating Des' prison letters to Penny. Knowing he can't beat Daddy's dollars head-on (and perhaps lacking a bit of backbone), Desmond decides to ''get my honor back'' in a roundabout fashion: He's going to enter a Widmore-sponsored race around the world, win, and collect his bright shiny Penny. (Fortunately, Libby, who met Desmond at a coffee shop, happened to have a spare sailboat lying around.)

As (bad) luck would have it, the race lands him smack in the middle of another Widmore spin-off, the Island. (I'm guessing it wasn't luck at all — Desmond's presence on the Island, like everyone else's, seems to be no accident, and his connection with Widmore suggests some meddling from a higher power.) He washes up on the beach, is rescued by a Dharma hatch dweller named Inman — the same Inman who, as an American intelligence officer in the early '90s, talked Sayid into torturing his former friend. Inman did his old job too well, turns out — he was disowned by his old employers, probably for something Abu Ghraib-ish. He's not too wild about his new bosses, either. In fact, he's planning an escape with Desmond's boat. Desmond finds out, fights him for it — and accidentally kills him. (Doesn't seem like accidentally killing Inman — played by the massive and inimitable Clancy Brown — would be an easy thing to do, but our Des pulls it off.)

In the process, he learns that the button, the Hatch, the cataclysm of noncompliance — it's all real. If the button doesn't get pressed, the ''geologically unique'' magnetism of the island goes haywire, overloads, starts yanking anything metal into its collapsing nucleus. The Island, it seems, is perched on some sort of black hole, and the forces contained within it need constant venting. Why must it be done manually? This remains a mystery. But Desmond watches it happen. And later, when he reads the logs Locke and Eko brought back from the Pearl observation station, he realizes the consequences: In the moments before Desmond brought it under control with some belated button pushing, the Island's magnetism (drumroll, please) brought down Flight 815. Our friend Desmond crashed the plane. Some days later, pistol in hand, ready to end it all, he heard Locke banging on the hatch door — and turned on the light. Instant epiphany...or something. It's unclear what this meant for Desmond. But he tells Locke, ''You saved my life.''

He says he'll return the favor. But does he? That's our cliff-hanger, folks: We don't know the fates of Locke, Desmond, and Eko. All were in the Hatch when the counter went to zero, the sky turned violet, and heads started throbbing. All we know is Charlie stumbled out of the jungle, largely unhurt, if deeply annoying. And the Hatch door came smashing down into the sand on the beach, after flying a mile through the air. That suggests something rather explosive (or attractive/repulsive, in the magnetic sense) happened right in the epicenter of downtown Hatch. Desmond, emboldened by his true love's devotion, turned a fail-safe key, the one Inman didn't have the guts to turn, the one that would ''blow the dam,'' ''make all this go away.'' And...fade to white.

How'd it come to this? Locke, angered at the perceived fraud of the button, decides to stop Eko from pushing the damned thing. Desmond, despite having witnessed a calamitous countdown firsthand, at first elects to assist in the hatchjacking, convinced that Locke's Pearl scoop is true and the whole setup is a cruel psych experiment running on autopilot. Only after they've triggered the blast door and sealed Eko out does Desmond reconsider: Maybe the people in the Pearl were the subjects of the experiment. Maybe the people in the Swan were really doing something important.

And it's around about this time that Jack ''I Wouldn't Lead You All Out Here If I Didn't Have a Plan'' Shephard and his hapless party of five stumble upon one of the episode's most gratifyingly creepy images: a pile of discarded, unread notebooks, chock full of observations, barfed from the Pearl's pneumatic tube. It's a chilly moment as it dawns on you: The Pearl is the ringer; the Swan is for real. But there's little time to ruminate. The Others swarm over Jack et al, whose surprise attack has proved useless, as Sayid was duped by the Others' Potemkin village. Jack, Sawyer, Kate, and Hurley are taken to a long wharf, where Bearded Toughguy is revealed to be clean-shaven Tom, where Ms. Clue/Klugh is revealed to be ''B'' (or ''D''? I couldn't tell), and where Henry Gale is...well, he's the ranking officer, if not the big bad. He appears to keep his deal with Michael, giving him a boat and his freedom. He alludes to getting ''more than we bargained for'' with Walt and seems none too bothered about giving him up. He sends Hurley back to the Lostaways camp with a message: Don't come looking for us. And he says that Jack, Kate, and Sawyer will be ''coming to live with us.'' How...hospitable! Seems the Others did want Kate after all. And her boy toys. Ah, just wait until they get a load of how annoying that love triangle is — hope they're in the habit of keeping the receipt.

So that's where we leave it, ladies and gentlemen. Ah, but then there's the coda: Somewhere off the island (Antarctica, maybe?), two foreign guys (was that Russian?) are playing chess in a monitoring station. An alarm goes off. A computer announces, ''Electromagnetic anomaly detected.'' One man picks up the phone. On the other end of the line is Penny Widmore. She's been looking for her man. And somehow, it seems she knew where he'd be: atop a giant magnet. Inside intel from her dad's shady operation? Signs point to yes. Or maybe she sent old Des there in the first place. Who knows? Who knows if there's any Des left to love? Who knows who built that rock formation? Or the giant Colossus of Toes found by Sayid on his fruitless circumnavigation of the island? (My favorite moment of the episode, by the way.) Who knows why the Island and its surrounding waters are ''a snow globe'' for anyone who doesn't plot a very specific course? (Having seen the outside world, theoreticians, we may now eliminate the ''apocalypse/last place on earth'' possibility.) Could the producers have actually been gutsy/foolhardy enough to kill off Locke and Eko, their two most beloved characters? Almost certainly not. But who knows anything? Not me. Maybe not the producers, either. But we've got all summer to argue about it.

we don't know who the others are and what that flash of light was....maybe Henry is the leader....maybe they're aliens....

Not sure why...but something tells me that Kate's history, along with her seemingly James Bondish ability with guns, will become a factor while being captured by the Others. Remember the flashback scene of her in the bank robbery, and we learn she actually is one of the bank robbers...then we learn further that she has actually dubed the bank robbers and in one calm and smooth motion pretty much takes out everyone in the room with some amazing (and amazingly quick) marksmanship?...Well, she doesn't kill them, but she wounds them all in like 3 seconds so she can make her escape. I expect a similar scene to play out next season for some reason...her "bad-ass" reality hasn't been played out yet. And remember, she was originally supposed to be the lead/hero of the show, not Jack...they have more in store for her other than looking sexy in tight-fitting tops and making goo-goo eyes with Jack and Sawyer.

And I'm surprised as hell how Desmond has become such an intregal character to the story...he was portrayed as a stereotypical one-off character created mainly for the purposes of propelling the storyline forward. But now! Hell, it's almost the Desmond show after that finale...lol...He caused the plane to wreck, he may also cause everyone to eventually be rescues by what he did in the hatch...hell, he might have also caused the world to be saved. All hail Desmond!

Locke and Ecko can't be dead... ...Unlike Imago (lol), I find Ecko's character fascinating, and more importantly, I find him essential...he alone acts on faith, he alone sees the island and all the weirdness of it as hella-important, and all their actions and reactions while on the island as hella-important as well...he alone sees the redemption that is being offered, and he alone seems to have embraced that redemptive opportunity and run with it. Without Ecko, the show could easily become a mere good guys/bad guys story set on a mysterious island. Locke has proven to be too weak in his beliefs and in himself, and Jack is too busy pointing guns at people lol...have you noticed that Jack points a gun at every-fucking-body!...It's his way of dealing with everything...need something from Sawyer? Point a gun at his head and threaten to kill him. Want Desmond to stop running? Point a gun at his head and threaten to kill him. I'd trust Sawyer with the guns before I'd trust Jack..

Also...Micheal and Walt will return to help try and save Jack, Kate and Sawyer...which is too bad cuz they just need to stay on that boat and never return to the series...lol...lord, they're irritating. The whole "Walt is special" storyline needs to be abandoned so that they can let those two characters vanish without a trace...and Walt looks 16 years old now...lol . They only show him in spurts and at certain angles...but you can see the maturity in his face, and he looks like he's taller than Michael now...lol

Lastly...wtf was that with the bird squawking Hurley's name? ...And why was Hurley the only one they didn't show being effected by the hatch "blast" (or whatever it really was)??...All the other characters where shown covering their ears, wincing in pain, etc...Hurley was left out of that montage. Was there a reason? And the four-toed statue was freaky...gave me the impression of some long-"lost" (heh) civilization that used to be a part of the island, but...vanished...for whatever reason. I imagine that the rest of the statue is underwater, and will be discovered--along with a bunch of other artifacts and such--in the season to come. What this will add to the story, I dunno...And were we to assume that Libby was in the nut house due to her husband passing away?...Or is she a twin, like someone suggested above? Is this a tie-in to the book "The Bad Twin" written by that guy who also wrote about some mathematical equation that's supposed to be able to figure out when the world would end, or prove that God exists, or..something like that..lol..

Oh, and Penny is cute!!.. Desmond's a lucky man...lol

superspaceboy said:

Interesting - I didn't pick up on that, and I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere else yet. I knew I recognized him, but half-thought I recognized him from a different show (which is probably also true).

the ending was alright...it seemed they just packed everything into the last 30 minutes.

Byron said:

That's if she can find him again...and if he's alive.

I worked this one out.

superspaceboy said:

is most definitely from a statue of:

superspaceboy said:

He's alive.

I'm more concerned for my boy Charlie!!!

When he got back to the beach it was like he had no clue what happened in the hatch. That's got to mean something more than he's just hysterical over the trauma.

Oh and I think Libby is not a twin...she's just

booyah said:

Did anybody think that there was going to be some serious man on man love making when Ecko tore Charlie's belt off of him?

I thought they were seriously going to scrog.

Sweeny79 said:

I don't think Libby was a twin. ELizabeth = Libby

Sweeny79 said:

Yeah, what the HELL was up with Charlie??...He was almost evil in the total disregard he seemed to show at the thought of Locke and Ecko not making it out...was it a side effect of whatever took place in the hatch when Desmond turned the key??...Or was he truly happy to feel like his "competition" for Claire's time and attention were now out of the way?

Imago said:

I thought he was going to hit him with the belt, you obviuosly have a way more interesting imagination.

superspaceboy said:

Can we say "assume my twin's identity"??..lol

Imago said:

you know not every man / man interaction (esp hotties) ends up in the sack!