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I Love Zoe! (and you should too) Ok, I'm sure many of you are not home to catch soap operas or don't get soapnet, but All My Children is the shit! Good shit. The writers teamed up with GLAAD to create a trangender character named Zoe. Zoe first appeared as a rockstar named Zarf who came to town to work on a marketing campaign for a cosmetics company. Zarf had a deep secret, which later came to be that not only was Zarf a woman in a man's body, but she was also a lesbian
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OK, this is one thing I truly don't even get at all. Why chop off your dick to be with a woman if you can already get one?! Is it the whole "lesbian thing" like do you really think you are a gay woman inside? Why not be a sensitive man, women would eat that shit up. NO?
I stay Woke.
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: OK, this is one thing I truly don't even get at all. Why chop off your dick to be with a woman if you can already get one?! Is it the whole "lesbian thing" like do you really think you are a gay woman inside? Why not be a sensitive man, women would eat that shit up. NO?
I have been kind of really confused by this character, although I haven't really watched AMC on a consistent basis. If you're saying it's well done then I trust you  i never really understood that either  | |
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I thought this was about the chick in Death Proof.
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: OK, this is one thing I truly don't even get at all. Why chop off your dick to be with a woman if you can already get one?! Is it the whole "lesbian thing" like do you really think you are a gay woman inside? Why not be a sensitive man, women would eat that shit up. NO?
I have been kind of really confused by this character, although I haven't really watched AMC on a consistent basis. If you're saying it's well done then I trust you Gender identity and sexual orientation do not go hand-in-hand. Someone's attraction to a particular gender has nothing to do with the body they feel comfortable in. This character, as well as my real life friend, wants women who loves women. She wants breasts and a vagina also. It makes sense to me. I have also seen female-to male transgender gay men. People automatically assume trans people are straight and they're not That was also brought up in the show. It's not about getting women, it's about being one [Edited 4/9/07 16:49pm] | |
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SexualHazard said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: OK, this is one thing I truly don't even get at all. Why chop off your dick to be with a woman if you can already get one?! Is it the whole "lesbian thing" like do you really think you are a gay woman inside? Why not be a sensitive man, women would eat that shit up. NO?
I have been kind of really confused by this character, although I haven't really watched AMC on a consistent basis. If you're saying it's well done then I trust you i never really understood that either It makes perfect sense. What if you were attracted to men, but felt like your body wasn't the right one? If you change your body do you think the gender you are attracted to will change also? No. | |
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live4lust said: I thought this was about the chick in Death Proof.
 Sorry to bust your bubble | |
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AMC also featured real trans people in a scene where Zoe goes to a support group. This is an extremely well written and well acted character. Very funny too | |
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live4lust said: I thought this was about the chick in Death Proof.
Oh my god....ME TOO! Man, we must still have Grindhouse on the brain.  Have you seen the ghost of John? Long white bones with the skin all gone. Oooooh. Wouldn't it be chilly with no skin on? 
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Janfriend said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: OK, this is one thing I truly don't even get at all. Why chop off your dick to be with a woman if you can already get one?! Is it the whole "lesbian thing" like do you really think you are a gay woman inside? Why not be a sensitive man, women would eat that shit up. NO?
I have been kind of really confused by this character, although I haven't really watched AMC on a consistent basis. If you're saying it's well done then I trust you Gender identity and sexual orientation do not go hand-in-hand. Someone's attraction to a particular gender has nothing to do with the body they feel comfortable in. This character, as well as my real life friend, wants women who loves women. She wants breasts and a vagina also. It makes sense to me. I have also seen female-to male transgender gay men. People automatically assume trans people are straight and they're not That was also brought up in the show. It's not about getting women, it's about being one [Edited 4/9/07 16:49pm] I understand this well enough, really I do. It is just odd if you can get women and go to those lengths only to get women! I feel like a chick inside and I identify highly as female but it would be like the same thing for me to become a woman so I can be with men. I can already be with a man! I stay Woke.
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Janfriend said: AMC also featured real trans people in a scene where Zoe goes to a support group. This is an extremely well written and well acted character. Very funny too
one of my friends was in that scene. we all watched the episode at work. and as the stars watched me descend i cracked the family tree and dropped off all of the branches | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Janfriend said: Gender identity and sexual orientation do not go hand-in-hand. Someone's attraction to a particular gender has nothing to do with the body they feel comfortable in. This character, as well as my real life friend, wants women who loves women. She wants breasts and a vagina also. It makes sense to me. I have also seen female-to male transgender gay men. People automatically assume trans people are straight and they're not That was also brought up in the show. It's not about getting women, it's about being one [Edited 4/9/07 16:49pm] I understand this well enough, really I do. It is just odd if you can get women and go to those lengths only to get women! So are you saying one should only go through those lengths to get a man? I feel like a chick inside and I identify highly as female but it would be like the same thing for me to become a woman so I can be with men. I can already be with a man!
No, it wouldn't be the same because you don't have a vagina and obviously don't feel like you need one nor does it seem like you've contemplated suicide because of your gender indentity. Once again, it has nothing to do with getting women. It has nothing to do with getting a date or getting laid. It has nothing to do with highly indentifying. It has to do with feeling you're in the wrong body. It's looking in the mirror and feeling the outside does not match the inside. A lot of trans people already have partners, husbands, and wives that stand by them. Some relationships die because of it. Some trans people stay single. It's not about sex or a romantic relationship [Edited 4/10/07 16:33pm] | |
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madartista said: Janfriend said: AMC also featured real trans people in a scene where Zoe goes to a support group. This is an extremely well written and well acted character. Very funny too
one of my friends was in that scene. we all watched the episode at work. Was it Andy? | |
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Janfriend said: Was it Andy?
and as the stars watched me descend i cracked the family tree and dropped off all of the branches | |
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madartista said: Janfriend said: Was it Andy?
She's interviewed in the podcast link | |
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I totally forgot to watch this.
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MIGUELGOMEZ said: I totally forgot to watch this.
M BOO!! 
There's a group of us obsessed with Zoe. I can send you whatever you want to see | |
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Side note: Most of the negativity towards this character comes from the gay community | |
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Janfriend said: MIGUELGOMEZ said: I totally forgot to watch this.
M BOO!!
There's a group of us obsessed with Zoe. I can send you whatever you want to see That would be cute! Send me a good episode. 
M Juizy Boyz®
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I'll have to try and catch this show. "I guess Soul Psychodelicide means death of the soul from psychodelic drug use" - mimiviz
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Zoe's my favorite porn model | |
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IAmNotSpats said: Zoe's my favorite porn model
Hey man, don't be disrespecting Zoe up in this bitch! | |
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psychodelicide said: I'll have to try and catch this show.
She's gone, but I'll send you some clips | |
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Janfriend said: psychodelicide said: I'll have to try and catch this show.
She's gone, but I'll send you some clips Okay, cool.  "I guess Soul Psychodelicide means death of the soul from psychodelic drug use" - mimiviz
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he's a tremendous actor. we saw him in taboo on broadway. | |
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Janfriend said: Side note: Most of the negativity towards this character comes from the gay community
I've heard it said that"LGBT" isn't only an acronym, it's also the pecking order. | |
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Zoe's time on the show ends this month and I hope she leaves with dignity. Try to catch it!
