All indications here are that this is a man, obviously.


But what I don't understand is all the visual ques should idicate that this is a woman--skin, makeup, eyes, neck (no adams apple visible), etc. etc.

So what specifically tells us that this is a man?

bone structure


although I find alot of women have mannish bone structure too

face structure and expression

veiny arms.

Arms

big head

the horse face always give it away

too much makeup

All those features are great guys, but they still can be found on women who we know are women when we look at them.

I've seen athletic women with that bone structure, and they still are obviously women. Or I've seen women with those veins and they are still women.

I've even seen women with a combination of manly features--even ones with Fe-mullets, and I know they're not men.


Is there something intangibly male about a person? Or is it a more subtle set of physical features?


This has been bugging me all day.

Anx said:

Tori Spelling still looks like a woman though.

i'm still not sold on chyna. i mean, she even talks with the inflections of a bitchy club queen. and, i mean, there's a whole segment of the TG community that likes to take a revisionist view of their identity, as if the "birth" gender never happened so they'll be treated more like the gender they feel they really are...which i think is totally understandable...but it's gotta be daunting when you're built like a linebacker and you're dressed like a mariah carey video. it's kinda hard to reconcile.

Imago said:

or do you just think you know??


I guess you wouldnt know if they had both sets of junk in thier draws

For me I think it's the jawline and the way it flows into the rest of the face differently from the way it does on (most) women's faces.

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I'm not making a political statement or picking on this b-list celeb but take Ann Coultre(Sp?)




She has manly features, but we all look at her and despite some of the androgynous ques, know that she is a woman.





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MarieAntoinette said:

I'm convinced Prince is in that category.

Imago said:

always thought she has a baloney hole and the baloney

the arms, the pancake makeup...looks as if he is trying too hard to "actually" look like a woman.

Imago said:

you mean you think he's a hermaphrodite?

interesting

Jawline, chin, and veins in arms. The shoulders don't look feminine either.

evenstar3 said:

Or just a big pussy with a penis.

Imago said:

its like an orgy squriting in your mouth

I wanted to show you a video on youtube of a 'katoey' to see what you thought and how obvious you thought it was that it wasn't a girl. Unfortunately youtube proxy is still saying my credit is over for 66 more minutes so I can't get in to find it.

MarieAntoinette said:

I think bone structure too.

The persons trying to look drag, not look like a natural looking woman. Tone down the make up, wear a long sleeve black dress, get a decent cleavage and pad out the ass a little, it would be much harder to tell. You would have to go for jawline and the way they spoke.

Fauxie said:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...FyER7wMU1s


OK, I can't tell other than one of their voices. They're kind of hot in a unsanitary way.

The makeup may have ALOT to do with it.

Here's one, though I don't see his body:

Imago said:

I can't see that, fool!

The one I meant was titled something like 'thai girl short skirt'. Try a search for that or throw the words 'nana plaza' in there.

Fauxie said:

I just don't know why you'd be looking for shit like that now that you're married. This is not the time to get all Eddie Murphy on our asses.

Imago said:

Anyway, that was before I was married.

It's interesting though. There's one dude on there who has all these post-coital vids of chubby-middle aged Thai women getting dressed. Many of them look like they're filmed in the woman's home and he's just shows off speaking Thai to them. He's got about 30 vids like that and the women seem to get progressively older and chubbier. He's just going round Bangkok sleeping with the middle-aged Toyota Camry driving upper middle class women while their husbands are at work.