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Thread started 07/13/07 12:37pm

sextonseven

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More bad news for smokers

From USAToday:

Smoking bans going from inside out

By Wendy Koch, USA TODAY

Summer fun is going smokeless as outdoor smoking bans sweep the nation.

The number of cities and counties that bar smoking in outdoor areas — including parks, cafes, concert venues, stadiums and beaches — has soared from 30 in 1999 to at least 1,124 today, according to the American Non-smokers' Rights Foundation, an advocacy group that tracks local ordinances.

"What we're seeing is the trend is going from the inside out," says Cynthia Hallett, the foundation's executive director. She says many places that have indoor bans are expanding their restrictions, which include 47 beaches and 222 parks.

Last month alone:

•Beverly Hills nixed lighting up in outdoor cafes.

•Albuquerque banned smoking in parks and public venues, including the zoo and botanical garden.

•Davis County, Utah, barred it from amusement parks, pools, public gardens, most parts of golf courses and even cemeteries.

"In some cases, (bans) are about fire safety," says Steven Feldman, spokesman for the Association of Zoos and Aquariums. The National Zoo in Washington, which had small fires linked to cigarette butts, banned smoking in December.

At least 81 zoos have gone smoke-free and 88 others have designated smoking areas, Feldman says. He says zoos have acted because many visitors are children.

The beach bans were motivated partly by litter concerns, Hallett says. Cigarettes are the top source of debris in global beach cleanups led by the Ocean Conservancy.

Albuquerque Mayor Martin Chávez says littering is a problem, but he pushed for an outdoor ban mostly for health reasons. "No amount of smoking is good for you," he says.

One in five American adults smoke cigarettes, according to government statistics.

Stanford University researchers found, in a study published in May, that people sitting within 2 feet of a single cigarette at an outdoor cafe could inhale as much secondhand smoke as in a smoky tavern.

The study is flawed, partly because people don't sit close enough outside to cause a health risk, says Audrey Silk, founder of Citizens Lobbying Against Smoker Harassment. If the problem is littering, she says, "enforce the litter laws."

What's driving outdoor bans, Silk says, is "public hate of anything smoking or smoker-related."

Philip Morris, the nation's largest cigarette maker, believes secondhand smoke poses indoor health risks but smoking should be permitted outside, says spokesman Bill Phelps. He says the only exception should be areas intended for kids.

Some proposed outdoor bans have been rejected, including one in Norman, Okla., last month. Others have passed but not quietly.

"There have been some very upset smokers," says Mayor Chávez. He retreated a bit this month by exempting golfers because municipal golf courses are not kid venues.

Albuquerque's outdoor ban, unlike some others, imposes no fines.

http://www.usatoday.com/n...bans_N.htm
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Reply #1 posted 07/13/07 3:38pm

sextonseven

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No one cares that smokers will soon have no place to kill themselves? confused
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Reply #2 posted 07/13/07 3:58pm

CarrieMpls

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sextonseven said:

No one cares that smokers will soon have no place to kill themselves? confused

lol


The whole world hates us. We know.

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Reply #3 posted 07/13/07 3:59pm

Mach

I heard a tax raise on smokes is comming as well
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Reply #4 posted 07/13/07 4:03pm

live4lust

CarrieMpls said:

sextonseven said:

No one cares that smokers will soon have no place to kill themselves? confused

lol


The whole world hates us. We know.

neutral


No smoking in outside cafes in Beverly Hills? But how will I do all my business?? lol
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Reply #5 posted 07/13/07 4:04pm

MikeMatronik

to smoke is just like sniffin' cocaine
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Reply #6 posted 07/13/07 4:05pm

sextonseven

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CarrieMpls said:

sextonseven said:

No one cares that smokers will soon have no place to kill themselves? confused

lol


The whole world hates us. We know.

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I don't hate you. You look hot when you smoke. nod

Just don't inhale.
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Reply #7 posted 07/13/07 4:25pm

CarrieMpls

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sextonseven said:

CarrieMpls said:


lol


The whole world hates us. We know.

neutral


I don't hate you. You look hot when you smoke. nod

Just don't inhale.


redface

smoker batting eyes
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Reply #8 posted 07/13/07 4:30pm

Imago

That's a bit extreme. I think the law is to broad.
They should narrow it down to just smoking while your hair is wet.
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Reply #9 posted 07/13/07 4:33pm

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Imago said:

That's a bit extreme. I think the law is to broad.
They should narrow it down to just smoking while your hair is wet.

lol
Stretching his hand out to catch the stars, he forgets the flowers at his feet.
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Reply #10 posted 07/13/07 4:37pm

CarrieMpls

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Imago said:

That's a bit extreme. I think the law is to broad.
They should narrow it down to just smoking while your hair is wet.

nana nana nana

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Reply #11 posted 07/13/07 4:38pm

CynthiasSocks

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I rarely smoke in public, but I do smoke in my car. Wonder when that will be banned? It could be said that smoking while driving is a distraction.
Socks still got butt like a leather seat...
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Reply #12 posted 07/13/07 4:41pm

Imago

CarrieMpls said:

Imago said:

That's a bit extreme. I think the law is to broad.
They should narrow it down to just smoking while your hair is wet.

nana nana nana


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Reply #13 posted 07/13/07 4:44pm

sextonseven

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CarrieMpls said:

Imago said:

That's a bit extreme. I think the law is to broad.
They should narrow it down to just smoking while your hair is wet.

nana nana nana



drool
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Reply #14 posted 07/13/07 4:45pm

sextonseven

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Imago said:




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Reply #15 posted 07/13/07 4:45pm

Imago

sextonseven said:

Imago said:




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brick
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Reply #16 posted 07/13/07 4:47pm

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what's the big deal? it's outside, you can always move away from someone who's smoking if you don't like it...shrug
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Reply #17 posted 07/13/07 4:47pm

sextonseven

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Imago said:

sextonseven said:



neutral

brick


I'm still not adding you on myspace. razz
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Reply #18 posted 07/13/07 4:55pm

CarrieMpls

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sextonseven said:

CarrieMpls said:


nana nana nana



drool

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Reply #19 posted 07/13/07 4:59pm

Imago

sextonseven said:

Imago said:


brick


I'm still not adding you on myspace. razz

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Reply #20 posted 07/13/07 5:07pm

RudyIsBackForG
ood

you smoke too much you anint gonn get yo dick hardr cuz ddem muthafuckas fuck up the blood flow fucking up blood vessslles so yhu bette r stick with the e cocoa ssupposed to keep yo dick hard...Hotttt sweeet chocolate make you so HoRny Too !
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Reply #21 posted 07/13/07 5:09pm

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RudyIsBackForGood said:

you smoke too much you anint gonn get yo dick hardr cuz ddem muthafuckas fuck up the blood flow fucking up blood vessslles so yhu bette r stick with the e cocoa ssupposed to keep yo dick hard...Hotttt sweeet chocolate make you so HoRny Too !


eek

zelaira?!
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Reply #22 posted 07/13/07 5:19pm

ELASTICFANTAST
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evenstar3 said:

RudyIsBackForGood said:

you smoke too much you anint gonn get yo dick hardr cuz ddem muthafuckas fuck up the blood flow fucking up blood vessslles so yhu bette r stick with the e cocoa ssupposed to keep yo dick hard...Hotttt sweeet chocolate make you so HoRny Too !


eek

zelaira?!

lol
Stretching his hand out to catch the stars, he forgets the flowers at his feet.
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Reply #23 posted 07/13/07 5:44pm

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This is all a bit too extreme ...as long as they don´t bother me, they should be able to smoke where they want to , especially in places like bars and such. It´s ridiculous...the laws are too strict.
" I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?"
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Reply #24 posted 07/13/07 5:49pm

Lothan

Mach said:

I heard a tax raise on smokes is comming as well
Cigarettes are already over 6 dollars a pack in Chicago.
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Reply #25 posted 07/13/07 7:19pm

live4lust

evenstar3 said:

RudyIsBackForGood said:

you smoke too much you anint gonn get yo dick hardr cuz ddem muthafuckas fuck up the blood flow fucking up blood vessslles so yhu bette r stick with the e cocoa ssupposed to keep yo dick hard...Hotttt sweeet chocolate make you so HoRny Too !


eek

zelaira?!


falloff

hmmm
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Reply #26 posted 07/14/07 4:25am

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In Denmark, indoors smoking in public places like trainstations, restaurants, bars and workplaces has just been banned, but outdoors smooking is still allowed. biggrin
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Reply #27 posted 07/14/07 6:11am

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French inhale- learned from the movie "Grease" in kindergarten! smoker
Socks still got butt like a leather seat...
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Reply #28 posted 07/15/07 5:17pm

senik

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Lothan said:

Mach said:

I heard a tax raise on smokes is comming as well
Cigarettes are already over 6 dollars a pack in Chicago.


On average, popular 20 decks in the U.K. cost around 10/11 dollars.

"..My work is personal, I'm a working person, I put in work, I work with purpose.."
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Reply #29 posted 07/17/07 6:18am

alphastreet

I can't stand the smell of smoke at all and it's so irritating having it blown in your face while walknig down the street, but I don't think it's fair to those who want to do it. If they ban this, people will just do it underground or something and that can cause more problems. It would be like Prohibition in the 20's once again
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