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DexMSR

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Why Do We Have 5 Senses?

Our five senses:

Sight
Touch
Taste
Hearing
Smell

Were perfectly contrived by nature to equip us to decipher the most complex and simplest of information of which all are physical. If none of these senses can decipher it, then it is quite simply deemed a phenomena right? Meaning we have ansolutely no grasp on it at all right?

So WHY do people put faith in something they simply cannot explain and dismiss it as FAITH...FAITH IN WHAT....IF YOU CAN'T FUCKING EXPLAIN WHAT THE HELL IT IS...WHY WOULD YOU PUT FAITH IN IT?

JUST ASKIN....evilking

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Reply #1 posted 11/25/05 6:35am

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DexMSR said:

Our five senses:

Sight
Touch
Taste
Hearing
Smell

Were perfectly contrived by nature to equip us to decipher the most complex and simplest of information of which all are physical. If none of these senses can decipher it, then it is quite simply deemed a phenomena right? Meaning we have ansolutely no grasp on it at all right?

So WHY do people put faith in something they simply cannot explain and dismiss it as FAITH...FAITH IN WHAT....IF YOU CAN'T FUCKING EXPLAIN WHAT THE HELL IT IS...WHY WOULD YOU PUT FAITH IN IT?

JUST ASKIN....evilking


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Reply #2 posted 11/25/05 6:41am

Abrazo

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How about intuition?

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Reply #3 posted 11/25/05 7:06am

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Abrazo said:

confuse


How about intuition?


Exactly...

Aristotle was the main man who numbered the senses. And we still use his rudimentary count of five senses today... But really, we have many more senses. We have a sense designed for orientation in relation to gravity for example. Where is up and where is down etc... We have intuitive senses, like Abrazo says, which are not of the telekanetic and 'mysterous forces' ilk, but senses of right or wrong for example. We have senses which detect the well being of another person - we can tell if someone is sad, happy, sick etc...

We have senses which are designed to trigger emotional response. If you walk into a dark room in an empty house that is 200 years old you may feel fear. But why do you feel fear? It may be what you see and hear (or think you see and hear), but it is just another intuitive sense of danger or sense of the unknown...

And thats why people can put faith in something they cant sense by way of the 5 main senses. Because other senses less obvious tell us other things...

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Reply #4 posted 11/25/05 7:16am

DexMSR

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Rebeljuice said:

Abrazo said:

confuse


How about intuition?


Exactly...

Aristotle was the main man who numbered the senses. And we still use his rudimentary count of five senses today... But really, we have many more senses. We have a sense designed for orientation in relation to gravity for example. Where is up and where is down etc... We have intuitive senses, like Abrazo says, which are not of the telekanetic and 'mysterous forces' ilk, but senses of right or wrong for example. We have senses which detect the well being of another person - we can tell if someone is sad, happy, sick etc...

We have senses which are designed to trigger emotional response. If you walk into a dark room in an empty house that is 200 years old you may feel fear. But why do you feel fear? It may be what you see and hear (or think you see and hear), but it is just another intuitive sense of danger or sense of the unknown...

And thats why people can put faith in something they cant sense by way of the 5 main senses. Because other senses less obvious tell us other things...



Right or Wrong are morality issues based on the conditioning of those in your upbringing and what you feel...all physical.

You "see" that someone is sad, happy etc....

So name a sixth sense that doesn't fall into this rudimentary description.

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Reply #5 posted 11/25/05 7:24am

Abrazo

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Rebeljuice said:



Exactly...

Aristotle was the main man who numbered the senses. And we still use his rudimentary count of five senses today... But really, we have many more senses. We have a sense designed for orientation in relation to gravity for example. Where is up and where is down etc... We have intuitive senses, like Abrazo says, which are not of the telekanetic and 'mysterous forces' ilk, but senses of right or wrong for example. We have senses which detect the well being of another person - we can tell if someone is sad, happy, sick etc...

We have senses which are designed to trigger emotional response. If you walk into a dark room in an empty house that is 200 years old you may feel fear. But why do you feel fear? It may be what you see and hear (or think you see and hear), but it is just another intuitive sense of danger or sense of the unknown...

And thats why people can put faith in something they cant sense by way of the 5 main senses. Because other senses less obvious tell us other things...



Right or Wrong are morality issues based on the conditioning of those in your upbringing and what you feel...all physical.

You "see" that someone is sad, happy etc....

So name a sixth sense that doesn't fall into this rudimentary description.


Like I said: intuition.

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Reply #6 posted 11/25/05 7:28am

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DexMSR said:

Rebeljuice said:



Exactly...

Aristotle was the main man who numbered the senses. And we still use his rudimentary count of five senses today... But really, we have many more senses. We have a sense designed for orientation in relation to gravity for example. Where is up and where is down etc... We have intuitive senses, like Abrazo says, which are not of the telekanetic and 'mysterous forces' ilk, but senses of right or wrong for example. We have senses which detect the well being of another person - we can tell if someone is sad, happy, sick etc...

We have senses which are designed to trigger emotional response. If you walk into a dark room in an empty house that is 200 years old you may feel fear. But why do you feel fear? It may be what you see and hear (or think you see and hear), but it is just another intuitive sense of danger or sense of the unknown...

And thats why people can put faith in something they cant sense by way of the 5 main senses. Because other senses less obvious tell us other things...



Right or Wrong are morality issues based on the conditioning of those in your upbringing and what you feel...all physical.

You "see" that someone is sad, happy etc....

So name a sixth sense that doesn't fall into this rudimentary description.


Up and down. Balance. Pain and pleasure.

There is no feeling, except the extremes of fear and grief, that does not find relief in music. - George Eliot

Music is essentially useless, as life is - George Santayana
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Reply #7 posted 11/25/05 7:35am

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What about people who have the ability to see future events? Many people have claimed to be able to know things that are going to happen- things that could not have been predicted by rational computation and process of elimination.

What about healings that cannot be explained by doctors? Things like people's lungs healing and becoming completely clear overnight who previously had terminal lung disease? I witnessed this with my grandmother. She had terminal emphysema and was diagnosed with a month to live, and suddenly was healthy and lived for another 5 years. Many, many things like this happen to many people everyday. It is those things that give us faith. The things that give some people doubt are the things that give people like me faith- faith in knowing that unseen things are happening due to the power of an unseen force- a positive force. Of course, there is an unseen negative force also. Some choose to pay homage to that negative force. But, I am also a realist in knowing that there are many things that we can change because we do have free will to choose what side we want or choose no side at all.
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Reply #8 posted 11/25/05 7:54am

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Rebeljuice said:

DexMSR said:




Right or Wrong are morality issues based on the conditioning of those in your upbringing and what you feel...all physical.

You "see" that someone is sad, happy etc....

So name a sixth sense that doesn't fall into this rudimentary description.


Up and down. Balance. Pain and pleasure.


up and down...physical...balance..physical...pain and pleasure....obviously physical

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Reply #9 posted 11/25/05 7:56am

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Abrazo said:

DexMSR said:




Right or Wrong are morality issues based on the conditioning of those in your upbringing and what you feel...all physical.

You "see" that someone is sad, happy etc....

So name a sixth sense that doesn't fall into this rudimentary description.


Like I said: intuition.


Intuition is a feeling.....right?

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Reply #10 posted 11/25/05 7:57am

Heiress

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Like I said: intuition.


Intuition is a feeling.....right?


It's the 6th sense.

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Reply #11 posted 11/25/05 7:57am

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we have gotten sidetracked here abit.....will someone answer my question?

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Reply #12 posted 11/25/05 8:07am

Heiress

DexMSR said:

we have gotten sidetracked here abit.....will someone answer my question?


You mean, this question?

DexMSR said:

So WHY do people put faith in something they simply cannot explain and dismiss it as FAITH...FAITH IN WHAT....IF YOU CAN'T FUCKING EXPLAIN WHAT THE HELL IT IS...WHY WOULD YOU PUT FAITH IN IT?

JUST ASKIN....


Emotional or spiritual intelligence? hmmm

Some got it, some don't...

Not everything can be defined "scientifically." I mean, science is not my God. It's the thoughts of man, like anything else - it's the interpretation of certain facts that changes from century to century...

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Reply #13 posted 11/25/05 8:46am

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Heiress said:

DexMSR said:

we have gotten sidetracked here abit.....will someone answer my question?


You mean, this question?

DexMSR said:

So WHY do people put faith in something they simply cannot explain and dismiss it as FAITH...FAITH IN WHAT....IF YOU CAN'T FUCKING EXPLAIN WHAT THE HELL IT IS...WHY WOULD YOU PUT FAITH IN IT?

JUST ASKIN....


Emotional or spiritual intelligence? hmmm

Some got it, some don't...

Not everything can be defined "scientifically." I mean, science is not my God. It's the thoughts of man, like anything else - it's the interpretation of certain facts that changes from century to century...



Good Answer...but if it takes the physical to create the physical where do we draw conclusions from a source that simply does not register in the physical world?

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Reply #14 posted 11/25/05 8:49am

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DexMSR said:



Intuition is a feeling.....right?


It's the 6th sense.

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Reply #15 posted 11/25/05 8:50am

Abrazo

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Heiress said:



Emotional or spiritual intelligence? hmmm

Some got it, some don't...

Not everything can be defined "scientifically." I mean, science is not my God. It's the thoughts of man, like anything else - it's the interpretation of certain facts that changes from century to century...



Good Answer...but if it takes the physical to create the physical where do we draw conclusions from a source that simply does not register in the physical world?

how do you know it takes the physical to create the physical?

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Reply #16 posted 11/25/05 9:01am

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Abrazo said:

DexMSR said:




Good Answer...but if it takes the physical to create the physical where do we draw conclusions from a source that simply does not register in the physical world?

how do you know it takes the physical to create the physical?


How do you think you got here..a physical act.

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DexMSR said:

Rebeljuice said:



Up and down. Balance. Pain and pleasure.


up and down...physical...balance..physical...pain and pleasure....obviously physical


Up and down is more than physical.. You have to be able to "detect" gravity... Go into space where there is zero gravity and you will soon see how you have lost a vital sense...

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Music is essentially useless, as life is - George Santayana
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Rebeljuice said:

DexMSR said:



up and down...physical...balance..physical...pain and pleasure....obviously physical


Up and down is more than physical.. You have to be able to "detect" gravity... Go into space where there is zero gravity and you will soon see how you have lost a vital sense...


all I am asking you to do is NAME that vital sense....I believe in space...you and still see, hear, smell, taste, and touch....

up and down and its notions are based on the relative forces of gravity...this is for sure...and the presence of gravity or not is based on the aligment and configuration of the planets and universe...which are all physical.

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Reply #19 posted 11/25/05 10:22am

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DexMSR said:

Our five senses:

Sight
Touch
Taste
Hearing
Smell

Were perfectly contrived by nature to equip us to decipher the most complex and simplest of information of which all are physical. If none of these senses can decipher it, then it is quite simply deemed a phenomena right? Meaning we have ansolutely no grasp on it at all right?

So WHY do people put faith in something they simply cannot explain and dismiss it as FAITH...FAITH IN WHAT....IF YOU CAN'T FUCKING EXPLAIN WHAT THE HELL IT IS...WHY WOULD YOU PUT FAITH IN IT?

JUST ASKIN....evilking


R senses r limited… proof? When we loose one sense often another will heighten in order 2 balance the loss. This is research based theory not opinion bringing the following thought… why WOULD u choose only 2 believe in those things a limited mind and set of senses can ascertain? The universe is beyond my complete comprehension thus I do not dare 2 have explanation 4 all the forces that lay within it. Who am I 2 say that there is not a higher perception available than the one my physical body possesses? What If I choose 2 question my limited senses and not be a sheep 2 them by following only those aspects of the universe that they lead me 2? Energy itself is not completely understood… its mechanics r explained by a theory. When we speak in absolutes we miss the point…

Is emotion only a physical sense? Emotions cause chemicals 2 secrete in2 the brain that can be monitored by scan but is the emotion the cause or the result of the chemical reaction? No one knows that answer… they theorize but it is not possible 2 have an absolute. So is emotion only a concept that the physical brain processes or is it beyond the physical and in2 the spiritual?

Then there is the question of how one chooses 2 define spiritual. My own definition is one beyond the physical restrictions of my physical body… one that transcends the conscious mind in2 the higher self i.e. unconscious that is connected 2 every other living thing in the universe.

If I speak of having ‘faith’ in something or someone it is a conscious choice 2 say I do not dare 2 be as pertinacious as 2 say I have every answer the universe holds and therefore place it in a box limited by mere mortal physical self. Just because I cannot explain it by way of physical senses does not mean it does not exist. And what is so wrong with not understanding everything in the universe? Do u truly think that is even possible? And if it were what would that mean? I instead have ‘faith’ in the universe itself that what it has lead me 2 or what it has lead 2 me is of the highest regard if and only if I am at peace with it. If that 6th sense some speak of is what it is so be it… if it is something completely different so be it. I am humble when it comes 2 this because I have seen and experienced more than I could possibly begin 2 explain, within the limits of the 5 senses, in my relatively short years on this planet.

Some of the most precious moments of my life have occurred 4 no other reason than the fact that I made the conscious choice 2 have faith in another, faith in myself and faith in the universe 2 step out of the known or ordinary and in2 the unknown. The path was lit not by my physical but by the universe...

I don’t question why. I have no need 2. Does that make me unintelligent? Less aware? A slave 2 an environment? I have not encountered an environment in my own life that supports my own beliefs so it may be the former but it is mos def not the later. The blessings I receive when I trust, have faith, faith without physical proof… they r more than ‘worth’ the experience I gain.

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Abrazo

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Abrazo said:


how do you know it takes the physical to create the physical?


How do you think you got here..a physical act.

Purely physical?
How do you know THAT?

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Abrazo

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Heiress said:



It's the 6th sense.

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so dex, what about intuition?

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Reply #22 posted 11/25/05 10:51am

Heiress

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Heiress said:



Emotional or spiritual intelligence? hmmm

Some got it, some don't...

Not everything can be defined "scientifically." I mean, science is not my God. It's the thoughts of man, like anything else - it's the interpretation of certain facts that changes from century to century...



Good Answer...but if it takes the physical to create the physical where do we draw conclusions from a source that simply does not register in the physical world?


I think this is the realm of spirituality, where each finds her or his own individual truth.

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Reply #23 posted 11/25/05 11:32am

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What the name of the sense that tells you to turn around when something you can't see is staring at you? We all have it. shrug

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Reply #24 posted 11/25/05 1:26pm

Heiress

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What the name of the sense that tells you to turn around when something you can't see is staring at you? We all have it. shrug


I'd call that a degree of energy sensitivity.

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Reply #25 posted 11/25/05 1:26pm

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What the name of the sense that tells you to turn around when something you can't see is staring at you? We all have it. shrug



nod

Or, what is it called when you wake up and you know something is wrong with your child and you walk in her room, and her pillow is full of blood from a nose bleed and she's still quietly asleep.

Intuition, Holy Spirit.....whomever, whatever you call it...its there.


and my EXPERIENCE with that "thing" or element Dex says you can't explain is very real. I FEEL it, I see it and know it. You can't discredit my EXPERIENCE with something just because it doesn't make "sense" to you.

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Reply #26 posted 11/25/05 1:33pm

Heiress

Could it be that we all have the ability to feel something beyond the 5 senses, and some people are somehow blocking this for themselves?

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Reply #27 posted 11/25/05 4:49pm

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This thread could do with a sense of balance.

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Reply #28 posted 11/25/05 6:16pm

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So WHY do people put faith in something they simply cannot explain and dismiss it as FAITH...FAITH IN WHAT....IF YOU CAN'T FUCKING EXPLAIN WHAT THE HELL IT IS...WHY WOULD YOU PUT FAITH IN IT?

JUST ASKIN....evilking


perhaps for the same reasons you're asking that question. curiousity? hope? understanding? if you were so sure there is nothing, then why ask if there is?

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what's funny is we can only taste salt, sour, bitter and sweet. everything else is our sense of smell.

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