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Indiana Jones makes Russian communists see red SIDENOTE: What do you think of this?
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i saw this movie the other day and it really does perpetuate some pretty outdated cultural stereotypes.
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I wonder how people of the Middle East felt after seeing The Temple Of Doom the first time. | |
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I've lost count of the Russian-made movies I've seen in my +7 years here in Moscow that had an anti-US bias. | |
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I've lost count of the Russian-made movies I've seen in my +7 years here in Moscow that had an anti-US bias. | |
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Poor little commies! | |
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That's why I can't stand watching these films and don't want to see this one.
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WellInever said: Poor little commies!
How terribly enlightened of you..... | |
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mdiver said: WellInever said: Poor little commies!
How terribly enlightened of you..... | |
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WellInever said: mdiver said: How terribly enlightened of you..... You know what a Communist is right? You know that the Political situation in Russia and its former states is not Communist right? That is a bit like calling Germany facist | |
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Really?
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TonyVanDam said: I wonder how people of the Middle East felt after seeing The Temple Of Doom the first time.
[Edited 5/24/08 23:50pm] Yeah.. was this the one where people are eating monkey brains and eye sockets.. What does that tell you if you found out later that most people in India are vegetarians. LOL! | |
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pplrain said: TonyVanDam said: I wonder how people of the Middle East felt after seeing The Temple Of Doom the first time.
[Edited 5/24/08 23:50pm] Yeah.. was this the one where people are eating monkey brains and eye sockets.. What does that tell you if you found out later that most people in India are vegetarians. LOL! It tells me India isn't in the middle east, for one thing. | |
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eugnj420 said: pplrain said: Yeah.. was this the one where people are eating monkey brains and eye sockets.. What does that tell you if you found out later that most people in India are vegetarians. LOL! It tells me India isn't in the middle east, for one thing. In Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (1984), chilled monkey brains are served as a dessert in a scene set in India. Hindus revere monkeys due to mythological character Hanuman in the epic Ramayana and a significant number of Hindus are lacto-vegetarians. The movie was banned in India for its "racist portrayal of Indians and overt imperialistic tendencies". | |
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pplrain said: eugnj420 said: It tells me India isn't in the middle east, for one thing. In Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (1984), chilled monkey brains are served as a dessert in a scene set in India. Hindus revere monkeys due to mythological character Hanuman in the epic Ramayana and a significant number of Hindus are lacto-vegetarians. The movie was banned in India for its "racist portrayal of Indians and overt imperialistic tendencies". It was in trouble for more than just that - the cult they chose, even though it was a cult portrayed in at least one other major movie, got some people riled up. Too bad. | |
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pplrain said: TonyVanDam said: I wonder how people of the Middle East felt after seeing The Temple Of Doom the first time.
[Edited 5/24/08 23:50pm] Yeah.. was this the one where people are eating monkey brains and eye sockets.. What does that tell you if you found out later that most people in India are vegetarians. LOL! in the movie the people in that castle were all under the spell. Once he died the spell was broken and they were freed. | |
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mdiver said: WellInever said: You know what a Communist is right? You know that the Political situation in Russia and its former states is not Communist right? That is a bit like calling Germany facist Strictly speaking you are correct. But from a more general way of speaking, in the common vernacular, they were 'commies.' Much like it is common to say the US is a democracy. It is also very worth noting, they (the 'Russians') have make many films that cast the US in a bad light. So I have little sympathy. | |
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viewaskew said: It was in trouble for more than just that - the cult they chose, even though it was a cult portrayed in at least one other major movie, got some people riled up. Too bad. Yes all the movies SOME historical basis. All of them were WAY over the top. I am sure people from other planets would be aghast at how we 'humons' portray them. | |
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Between this and "Resident Evil 5" I wonder where the magical people exist that one can make up fictional stories about without pissing some of them off.
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Mars23 said: I hope we can ban all of these and more. Do not forget people that push their agenda of smoking monkeys! | |
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WellInever said: Mars23 said: I hope we can ban all of these and more. Do not forget people that push their agenda of smoking monkeys! Nah, they're cool. Join the antithesis of the org conservative union!
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Mars23 said: WellInever said: Do not forget people that push their agenda of smoking monkeys! Nah, they're cool. Think about the monkeys! | |
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heartbeatocean said: That's why I can't stand watching these films and don't want to see this one.
And I disagree with "It's only a movie" excuse. Movies are all about values and morals. Hollywood is America's most pervasive export worldwide. It's called cultural colonialism. It's time to see these things for what they are -- MUCH more than entertainment. I believe you are referring to the preconditioning that is so perfectly executed through Hollywood movies. Except for the occasional heart attack, I never felt better! | |
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Mars23 said: Between this and "Resident Evil 5" I wonder where the magical people exist that one can make up fictional stories about without pissing some of them off.
Cinderella clearly shits on stepmothers. South Park stereotypes Colorado. Live Aid portrayed famine victims as people that cannot fend for themselves. I hope we can ban all of these and more. Hardly a clever attitude. Fictional stories make choices and these choices can be critiqued. Nobody is talking about banning movies. They are talking about critiquing such movies in an intelligent, thoughtful way. Questions such as: How does this movie portray ourselves and people who are different? How does this movie portray our role in the world as opposed to other cultures? What are the underlying assumptions and values proclaimed by such a movie? Whom does this movie (and its values) ultimately benefit and how? What alternative voices and viewpoints are being denied, manipulated, and contorted by this movie? It may be hard to believe if you only watch movies that come out of the Hollywood machine, but not every movie is thoughtless and offensive to other cultures. Some movies are revelatory, investigative, questioning. Some movies are actually made by people from other countries and share a more authentic viewpoint about their own culture. How many of these movies get distributed and watched? How many national cinemas fail in their own countries, because American films dominate the screens? | |
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eugnj420 said: pplrain said: Yeah.. was this the one where people are eating monkey brains and eye sockets.. What does that tell you if you found out later that most people in India are vegetarians. LOL! It tells me India isn't in the middle east, for one thing. And second of all, the clean animal of choice in India is chicken. | |
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On the surface, Hollywood is a liberal enterprise. But if you analyze its history and the formulaic text, it is actually reactionary, deeply enforcing values such as xenophobia, monogamy, homophobia, sexism, racism, etc. Action blockbusters almost always assert American dominance over the rest of the world and the very dialectic itself of good vs. evil, which the system relies upon, leads to superficial feel-good, we-are-in-the-right messages. These movies often display a hip mainstream critique (of materialism or war, for instance), dropping candies of political correctness, then end up reinforcing the very values it pretends to critique.
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And it's interesting that several people on this thread have argued that Russians make anti-American movies, but how many of us have actually seen them? Are these movies exported worldwide raking in millions of dollars from foreign economies? We may label them propaganda, but is not Hollywood a form of propaganda, disguised in the form of entertainment? | |
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heartbeatocean said: Mars23 said: Between this and "Resident Evil 5" I wonder where the magical people exist that one can make up fictional stories about without pissing some of them off.
Cinderella clearly shits on stepmothers. South Park stereotypes Colorado. Live Aid portrayed famine victims as people that cannot fend for themselves. I hope we can ban all of these and more. Hardly a clever attitude. Fictional stories make choices and these choices can be critiqued. Nobody is talking about banning movies. They are talking about critiquing such movies in an intelligent, thoughtful way. Questions such as: How does this movie portray ourselves and people who are different? How does this movie portray our role in the world as opposed to other cultures? What are the underlying assumptions and values proclaimed by such a movie? Whom does this movie (and its values) ultimately benefit and how? What alternative voices and viewpoints are being denied, manipulated, and contorted by this movie? It may be hard to believe if you only watch movies that come out of the Hollywood machine, but not every movie is thoughtless and offensive to other cultures. Some movies are revelatory, investigative, questioning. Some movies are actually made by people from other countries and share a more authentic viewpoint about their own culture. How many of these movies get distributed and watched? How many national cinemas fail in their own countries, because American films dominate the screens? have you seen this movie yet? | |
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XxAxX said: heartbeatocean said: Hardly a clever attitude. Fictional stories make choices and these choices can be critiqued. Nobody is talking about banning movies. They are talking about critiquing such movies in an intelligent, thoughtful way. Questions such as: How does this movie portray ourselves and people who are different? How does this movie portray our role in the world as opposed to other cultures? What are the underlying assumptions and values proclaimed by such a movie? Whom does this movie (and its values) ultimately benefit and how? What alternative voices and viewpoints are being denied, manipulated, and contorted by this movie? It may be hard to believe if you only watch movies that come out of the Hollywood machine, but not every movie is thoughtless and offensive to other cultures. Some movies are revelatory, investigative, questioning. Some movies are actually made by people from other countries and share a more authentic viewpoint about their own culture. How many of these movies get distributed and watched? How many national cinemas fail in their own countries, because American films dominate the screens? have you seen this movie yet? nah, I'm just shooting from the hip in this case | |
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