Thoughts on affirmative action?

I'm all against and what i believe is the chief reasn BHO is the nominee.

What are your thoughts?

it has it's pluses and minuses and has been abused just like any thing else out there but overall it's a good thing.

ehuffnsd said:

2Jay said:

Very against it!! U earn what u get, not a hand out!!

Lawd, have mercy. In a few years that's going to have a different meaning then it does today. Are you sure you are totally against it?

"Behind every successful woman there is an astonished man." General Ann Dunwoody

2Jay said:

ButterscotchPimp said:

Stymie said:

ButterscotchPimp said:

my thoughts?
GTFOHWTBS.

Thank you Ben!!!!!

I am FOR it...I wouldn't have a college education were it not for affirmative action.

I had to earn my grades like anyone else, but I also qualified for loans & scholarships made available to women minorities WHO HAD GOOD GRADES in order to get the funding that I needed to pay for college.


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2Jay said:

What are your thoughts on WHITE Privilege?

Graycap23 said:

2Jay said:

2Jay said:

Graycap23 said:

TonyVanDam said:

people see it as a zero-sum game - that's the problem. lifting anybody out of poverty, giving anybody an education, leveling the playing field for anybody is always to the benefit of society as a whole.

Graycap23 said:

2Jay said:

2Jay said:

http://prince.org/msg/15/286132


BARACK OBAMA, FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!! Get used to it HATERS!!

2Jay said:

IrresistibleB1tch said:

thepope2the9s said:

2jay, here's an article from 2003 in Motion Magazine on Affirmative Action you may be interested in reading:

link below:

http://www.inmotionmagazi...rocka.html



"Why Angry White Guys for Affirmative Action
are Marching to the Supreme Court"

by Paul Rockwell
Oakland, California

"Angry White Guys for Affirmative ActionThousands of Americans, including the Bay Area-based “Angry White Guys For Affirmative Action,” will march to the U.S. Supreme Court April 1st, in defense of University of Michigan affirmative action programs. The outcome of the national debate -- can a University use race as a factor to achieve cultural diversity in admissions? -- may depend on the frame of reference in which affirmative action is discussed. “Angry White Guys For Affirmative Action” offer a special set of arguments, a new focus that could change the very nature of the controversy.

For over 30 years opponents of affirmative action for women and people of color have overlooked a key American reality -- the role of affirmative action in the lives of white men. Opposition to affirmative action is based on selective inattention to the social props on which white men themselves depend. It is not affirmative action itself, but affirmative action for African-Americans and Latinos, that is under current attack.


White Male Beneficiaries

"In the last seventy years of social engineering, the vast majority of direct beneficiaries of affirmative action policies were not minorities; they were white males. Preferential social policies for those in need were not invented by civil rights leaders. Under Franklin Roosevelt, whom most white Americans still revere, the New Deal embarked upon a massive affirmative action approach to social crisis. With the critical exception of segregation, Americans approached their social problems -- unemployment, poverty of senior citizens, re-entry needs of veterans and GIs, farmers needing price supports -- through planned social engineering. The post World-War II Marshall Plan, a plan that provided billions of dollars for training and jobs, was a massive affirmative action plan for Europe. Former enemies got free training programs in Europe that were denied Black GIs at home in America.

The New Deal concepts became unpopular only after they were applied to the crisis and effects of segregation. It was not affirmative action itself, but the extension of affirmative action to minorities and women, that caused the backlash.

As white men whose own families got free medical care, unquestioned access to higher education through the GI Bill, who shared in the social uplift of the New Deal and Fair Deal, members of “Angry White Guys For Affirmative Action” support affirmative action for those who are still left out.

There is a normal tendency in most of us to overlook the social props, the network of special benefits on which we and our families depend. The late Mitch Snyder, advocate for the homeless, once gave an address to an affluent, white audience. He asked members in the auditorium: “Who lives in federally subsidized housing?” No one raised a hand. But then he asked homeowners to identify themselves. All hands went up, after which he pointed out that homeowners are subsidized. The Treasury gives up $46 billion each year to homeowner deductions in a system that predominately benefits people who earn more than $50,000 a year.

Tax breaks for home buyers may not be wrong. What is wrong is the smug psychology of the Bushites, the Rehnquists, who take advantage of all kinds of breaks for themselves while denying affirmative action for the most oppressed areas of society.


Affirmative action is already part of the fabric of American life. We are all bound together in a vast network of affirmative action, of mutual support systems we take for granted. It is hypocritical and profoundly wrong to call affirmative action for minorities “racism in reverse,” while treating affirmative action for bankers, farmers, white men of power, as entitlements.

There isn't a white judge on the U.S. Supreme Court that hasn't benefited from affirmative action. "
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http://prince.org/msg/15/286132


BARACK OBAMA, FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!! Get used to it HATERS!!

thepope2the9s said:

Stymie said:

2Jay said:

Stymie said:

2Jay said:

everybody shouold be equal. Affirmative Action is racism.

And when everyone is equal, come back and start this thread.

And, in case you didn't know, go talk to the white people that put affirmative action in place.

I would love to have just one white person explain how it is okay to have people in slavery for four hundred years yet affirmative action for the last forty is wrong.