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Will McCain drop out of race? Possibly....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/h...ydi6ce6sgF

Steve Rosenbaum
Sun Jun 15, 11:20 PM ET



When the Republicans choose their candidate on September 4th, there is a very real chance that they could throw the election into an unexpected chaos as they pull a genuine September Surprise.


I think there is every reason to believe John McCain won't be the nominee. Ok, let me say that again. McCain will not be the Republican candidate in November.

Here's how it could happen:

At some point in mid August, John McCain will announce that he has decided that he can not accept his party's nomination for president. The reason will be health-related, and that may turn out to be the truth. Anyone who's seen him on stage these days knows he looks like he's about to keel over. And anyone who's been on a presidential campaign knows the physical demands are grueling and can be a challenge for a young man.

But excuses or facts hardly matters. He won't be accepting his party's nomination.

The reasons are simple. He can't win. Now that Obama is the presumptive Democratic nominee -- the polls all show that McCain's pro-war stance and Bush endorsement make him a lost cause in November. That combined with soft stand on litmus test conservative issues make him an unpopular candidate among the base. I know some Democrats that think the Republicans are planning to let McCain lose and 'sit this one out' so that they can hang the democrats with a bad economy and a war that is a morass. But that just isn't how they play. They play to win every hand -- think about 2000 with a popular Democratic president and good economy and a solid VP running for president. Why did they put up Bush? And why did they fight so hard? Because, you don't ever throw a game. And they're not going to throw this one.

McCain won't be the nominee.

By August, they'll have done something to try and pick away at Obama's popularity. They'll emphasis race, or whatever they can to get him to appear less than perfect. Then, they'll bring out of the woodwork a surprise candidate who can shift the story fast. With just two months before the election -- the new candidate will have little time to be 'vetted' but will be shiny and new, and will get a lot of media attention as Obama's newness will have become -- by then -- tarnished or at least no longer the surprise that it has been as he unseated Hillary.

So, who will be the Republican candidate that faces Obama in the fall?

I've spoken to a number of friends who -- when presented with this set of facts respond: "but they don't have anybody else." That's simply not the case.

Joe Trippi, campaign consultant and most notably Howard Dean's campaign manager, said of McCain dropping out: "While crazy, this may be the best shot they have."

There are a whole list of Republicans who in many ways are more likely to energize the Republican base. One thing is certain -- there are candidates that will play to the core issues in ways that McCain simply can't.

Here's a list of names. Some you know, some you don't. But each of them knows their name is in play. Among them --

Condoleezza Rice (Secretary of State)
Colin Powell (fmr Sec. of State)
Marilyn Musgrave (Colorado Congresswoman)
Mitt Romney (fmr Massachusetts Governor)
Mike Huckabee (fmr Governor of Arkansas)
Charlie Crist (Florida Governor)
Tim Pawlenty (Minnesota Governor)
Bobby Jindal (Louisiana Governor)
Mark Sanford: (Governor of South Carolina)
John Thune (Senator from South Dakota)
Dick Lugar (Senator from Indiana)
Chuck Hagel (Senator from Nebraska)
MIchael Bloomberg (NYC Mayor)

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Reply #1 posted 06/18/08 11:46am

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I have no doubts this could happen. That is how pathetic the Republican party is lol They can never fight a fair fight. All this sharade to mimic the Democrat's historical choice for this election. You can't expect anything less than them riding on our coat-tails.

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Reply #2 posted 06/18/08 11:49am

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Not gonna happen IMHO. McCain, even though he seems a bit frail right now, he is a fighter and don't underestimate his toughness and resiliency.

And the only one on this list with any remote chance of doing better against Obama than McCain is Colin Powell.


Condoleezza Rice (Secretary of State)
Colin Powell (fmr Sec. of State)
Marilyn Musgrave (Colorado Congresswoman)
Mitt Romney (fmr Massachusetts Governor)
Mike Huckabee (fmr Governor of Arkansas)
Charlie Crist (Florida Governor)
Tim Pawlenty (Minnesota Governor)
Bobby Jindal (Louisiana Governor)
Mark Sanford: (Governor of South Carolina)
John Thune (Senator from South Dakota)
Dick Lugar (Senator from Indiana)
Chuck Hagel (Senator from Nebraska)
MIchael Bloomberg (NYC Mayor)


Hell Romney and Huckabee couldn't beat McCain, why would anyone think they can now beat Obama????

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Reply #3 posted 06/18/08 12:59pm

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Plausable.

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Reply #4 posted 06/18/08 1:34pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I have no doubts this could happen. That is how pathetic the Republican party is lol They can never fight a fair fight. All this sharade to mimic the Democrat's historical choice for this election. You can't expect anything less than them riding on our coat-tails.


Yes, every bit as pathetic as the the national democratic party's shenanigans in New Jersey a few years back: they found a friendly judge to install Frank Lautenberg as a last minute Senate candidate after the enrollment deadline when the incumbent dem, Robert Torecelli, was forced to resign from office due to ethical problems.

Just sayin'. razz

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Reply #5 posted 06/18/08 1:56pm

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It wouldn't be because of his health though. It would be because he would Mcchange his Mcmind....again...

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Reply #6 posted 06/18/08 2:45pm

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thepope2the9s said:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20080616/cm_huffpost/107236%3B_ylt%3DAm9CznRX4faDGxJ6tAydi6ce6sgF

Steve Rosenbaum
Sun Jun 15, 11:20 PM ET



When the Republicans choose their candidate on September 4th, there is a very real chance that they could throw the election into an unexpected chaos as they pull a genuine September Surprise.


I think there is every reason to believe John McCain won't be the nominee. Ok, let me say that again. McCain will not be the Republican candidate in November.

Here's how it could happen:

At some point in mid August, John McCain will announce that he has decided that he can not accept his party's nomination for president. The reason will be health-related, and that may turn out to be the truth. Anyone who's seen him on stage these days knows he looks like he's about to keel over. And anyone who's been on a presidential campaign knows the physical demands are grueling and can be a challenge for a young man.....


he's held up pretty good so far, and had to blame fatigue less than his opponents.

and as far as his health is concerned, and that he will have to withdrawal because of ill health, 2000 pages of medical records say otherwise.

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Reply #7 posted 06/18/08 2:50pm

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HiinEnkelte said:

thepope2the9s said:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20080616/cm_huffpost/107236%3B_ylt%3DAm9CznRX4faDGxJ6tAydi6ce6sgF

Steve Rosenbaum
Sun Jun 15, 11:20 PM ET



When the Republicans choose their candidate on September 4th, there is a very real chance that they could throw the election into an unexpected chaos as they pull a genuine September Surprise.


I think there is every reason to believe John McCain won't be the nominee. Ok, let me say that again. McCain will not be the Republican candidate in November.

Here's how it could happen:

At some point in mid August, John McCain will announce that he has decided that he can not accept his party's nomination for president. The reason will be health-related, and that may turn out to be the truth. Anyone who's seen him on stage these days knows he looks like he's about to keel over. And anyone who's been on a presidential campaign knows the physical demands are grueling and can be a challenge for a young man.....


he's held up pretty good so far, and had to blame fatigue less than his opponents.

and as far as his health is concerned, and that he will have to withdrawal because of ill health, 2000 pages of medical records say otherwise.


He didn't sell his soul to the devil, nor get fucked in the ass by Bush and his party for the last 8 years to give it up at the convention. He's the nom.

I stay Woke.

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Reply #8 posted 06/18/08 3:10pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

HiinEnkelte said:



he's held up pretty good so far, and had to blame fatigue less than his opponents.

and as far as his health is concerned, and that he will have to withdrawal because of ill health, 2000 pages of medical records say otherwise.


He didn't sell his soul to the devil, nor get fucked in the ass by Bush and his party for the last 8 years to give it up at the convention. He's the nom.



no kidding!

he loves his country, but not that much!!! to play decoy stooge this whole time until the convention.

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Reply #9 posted 06/18/08 4:11pm

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He won't drop out 4 health reasons. It will be because he's an old Llamma. lol

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Reply #10 posted 06/18/08 5:57pm

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Bishop31 said:

He won't drop out 4 health reasons. It will be because he's an old Llamma. lol


Who you callin' old!?!?! pissed
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Lammastide said:

Bishop31 said:

He won't drop out 4 health reasons. It will be because he's an old Llamma. lol


Who you callin' old!?!?! pissed
[Edited 6/18/08 17:57pm]



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Reply #12 posted 06/18/08 10:54pm

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thepope2the9s said:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20080616/cm_huffpost/107236%3B_ylt%3DAm9CznRX4faDGxJ6tAydi6ce6sgF

Steve Rosenbaum
Sun Jun 15, 11:20 PM ET



When the Republicans choose their candidate on September 4th, there is a very real chance that they could throw the election into an unexpected chaos as they pull a genuine September Surprise.


There are a whole list of Republicans who in many ways are more likely to energize the Republican base. One thing is certain -- there are candidates that will play to the core issues in ways that McCain simply can't.

Here's a list of names. Some you know, some you don't. But each of them knows their name is in play. Among them --

Condoleezza Rice (Secretary of State)
Colin Powell (fmr Sec. of State)
Marilyn Musgrave (Colorado Congresswoman)
Mitt Romney (fmr Massachusetts Governor)
Mike Huckabee (fmr Governor of Arkansas)
Charlie Crist (Florida Governor)
Tim Pawlenty (Minnesota Governor)
Bobby Jindal (Louisiana Governor)
Mark Sanford: (Governor of South Carolina)
John Thune (Senator from South Dakota)
Dick Lugar (Senator from Indiana)
Chuck Hagel (Senator from Nebraska)
MIchael Bloomberg (NYC Mayor)




But the real list should look like this;



Mitt Romney (fmr Massachusetts Governor)
Mike Huckabee (fmr Governor of Arkansas)
Charlie Crist (Florida Governor)

Mark Sanford: (Governor of South Carolina)
John Thune (Senator from South Dakota)

MIchael Bloomberg (NYC Mayor)[/quote]


Michael Bloomberg is the field favorite in such a scenario, then Romney, Sanford, Huckabee, Crist and Thune.

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Reply #13 posted 06/19/08 4:39am

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I can believe it! They only picked John McCain because they were betting he'd be up against Hillary Clinton, whom they just KNEW he'd have been able to beat, for sure, with the arsenal they had waiting for her! (Sorry HRC supporters, no malice intended, I'm just being honest!)

As for the list of possible McCain replacements, my thoughts are as follows:

Condoleezza Rice (Secretary of State) - Not a snowball's chance in hell of winning!
Colin Powell (fmr Sec. of State) - Will refuse to run!
Marilyn Musgrave (Colorado Congresswoman) - Possibly, just to take the angry woman vote!
Mitt Romney (fmr Massachusetts Governor) - Possibly but still can't win!
Mike Huckabee (fmr Governor of Arkansas) - More than likely and possibly a contender!
Charlie Crist (Florida Governor) - Nah! If the candidates from Florida, it'll be Former Governor Jeb Bush
Tim Pawlenty (Minnesota Governor) - Possibly!
Bobby Jindal (Louisiana Governor) - Possibly!
Mark Sanford: (Governor of South Carolina) - Possibly!
John Thune (Senator from South Dakota) - Possibly!
Dick Lugar (Senator from Indiana) - Possibly!
Chuck Hagel (Senator from Nebraska) - More than likely and possibly a contender!
MIchael Bloomberg (NYC Mayor) - More than likely!

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Reply #14 posted 06/19/08 9:46am

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While I'd like to see this happen, I don't think it will. It would give them a month to sell the new candidate which isn't really enough time for people to be comfortable with them unless it's someone everyone knows like Colin Powell (though I doubt he'd run.)

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Reply #15 posted 06/19/08 10:29am

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It would set a bad precedent for any Republican seeking to win the nomination:

You can raise millions of dollars, have every facet of your life exposed, work 20-hour days for 18 months, and win all the delegates you need.

But if you're not leading in the polls by the time summer gets here, you might get the ax at the 11th hour.

Plus, the primary campaigns would go on even longer and be even nastier so the also-rans could have a 2d bite at the apple come convention time.

Most likely, if they do that, they might as well reserve rooms for the Obama Inauguration.

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