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Don'tcha just love Don Imus? This old coot never quits. His latest comment:
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the article said: As we see it, if the comment wasn’t overtly and blatantly racist, then what the hell was it?
An inquiry. 
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greenpixies said: BlaqueKnight said: As we see it, if the comment wasn’t overtly and blatantly racist, then what the hell was it?
An inquiry. Actually "I" didn't say that, the author of the article did. So what would you call his response of “Well, there you go. Now we know.”? | |
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BlaqueKnight said: This old coot never quits. His latest comment:
IMUS AT IT AGAIN Posted by Mike Florio on June 23, 2008, 1:31 p.m. EDT Less than 15 months after losing his gig on WFAN and MSNBC for making racially charged comments regarding the Rutgers women’s basketball team, radio icon Don Imus has danced dangerously close to, and arguably over, the line again. On Monday, Imus had the following exchange with Warner Wolf: Wolf: “Defensive back Adam ‘Pacman’ Jones, recently signed by the Cowboys. Here’s a guy suspended all of 2007 following a shooting in a Vegas night club.” Imus: “Well, stuff happens. You’re in a night club, for God’s sake. What do you think’s gonna happen in a night club? People are drinking, they’re doing drugs. There are women there, and people have guns. So, there, go ahead.” Wolf: “He’s also been arrested six times since being drafted by Tennessee in 2005.” Imus: “What color is he?” Wolf: “He’s African-American.” Imus: “Well, there you go. Now we know.” Last time around, the comments represented a partial effort at humor. This time around, it was a matter-of-fact statement, with no chuckles, yuks, tee-hees, or ha’s. As we see it, if the comment wasn’t overtly and blatantly racist, then what the hell was it? Maybe we’re wrong on this one. Even so, it was nothing short of stoopid to fly so close to the flame that already burned him once. Here’s the audio: http://www.redlasso.com/C...6190b45245 Source: http://www.profootballtal...-it-again/ Amerikkka just loves this racist bastard. That's why he got his job back. He represents an ugliness in some peoples' hearts that they don't want to go away. They criticize and despise him publicly but deep down, they're glad he's there to say the stuff they feel but are to embarrassed to actually say. Too bad it was Tim Russert and not this fool. You misspelled "America" it's with a "c", not three "k"s. And, no, I think Imus is a douche. Always has been. [Edited 6/23/08 13:29pm] Join the antithesis of the org conservative union!
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He's an asswipe. At this point Don Imus is non-existent to me. It's people like him that carry racist attitudes and views that make this country the way it is and want to keep it that way. Firing him was not going to change his way of thinking. It's ingrained in his mentality. It's too late for him. I rather deal with those who don't have a problem with change in this country. http://prince.org/msg/15/286132
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Mars23 said: You misspelled "America" Did I?  | |
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BlaqueKnight said: greenpixies said: An inquiry. Actually "I" didn't say that, the author of the article did. So what would you call his response of “Well, there you go. Now we know.”? Sorry, you're right you didn't say it so I corrected it. I think his response is an attempt to convey an affirmation of the facts. [Flame snipped - June7] The cynical and indifferent know not what they miss. For their mistake is an impediment not only to our progress as a civilization but to their happiness as individuals.
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This is a cat who(when he worked at WNBC) shouted the N-word at black secretaries. So what else is new?
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What color is Don Imus?
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HatrinaHaterwitz said: What color is Don Imus?
White Well, there you go. Now we know.   | |
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he's a shock comedian, that's what he does. nothing to get all pissy over. | |
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He won't lose his job. If u want some censored shit.......go elsewhere. If u want the TRUTH, come 2 me. | |
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greenpixies said: BlaqueKnight said: Actually "I" didn't say that, the author of the article did. So what would you call his response of “Well, there you go. Now we know.”? Sorry, you're right you didn't say it so I corrected it. I think his response is an attempt to convey an affirmation of the facts. ][Flame snipped - June7] Really? So who is going to convey the affirmation of the facts of how many whites actually lynched and burned Black people back in the day in front of crowds that just stood there and looked on? Or do they get a pass? Pray tell who kept a count on those that committed those crimes and got away with it? How in the world would you know that "  ??? You just made a very, generalized, stereotypical statement. You have just given everyone the impression that because of an African-American's skin color, that they are more likely to commit crimes than any other race in the entire nation..
How in the hell did you arrive at a conclusion like that? You didn't just pick a "segment" of that population, you basically implied all "African-Americans" in this nation, when you made that statement. Let me throw some reality on you, it does not matter what percentage of whites or blacks or hispanics are in this nation regarding crime, every one of those groups are capable of committing a crime. It has nothing to do with the color of their skin. The point is, a crime is a crime regardless of who commits it. I find your statement very stereotypical and offensive. Also, if you think some white people do not commit crimes, think again. So do hispanics, asians, arabs, etc. I worked for an Admission and Release administrator in a particular state in the Dept. of Corrections, and did the weekly and monthly reports of how many whites, blacks, hispanics, etc., prisoners came into the system in that state. I have seen many prisoners' files, and I am here to tell you that there are some white people that commit crimes just like anyone else. You know why? Because they are just as much part of the same human race like everyone else and Humans err, regardless of skin color. NEWSFLASH Greepixies:People don't commit crimes based on their skin color. It could be based on any of the following situations: how they were raised, their character, the situations behind why they committed a crime (i.e., jealous husband/wife/lover/child abuser/domestic violence/gang banger/possibly poverty/drugs, etc.) all sorts of reasons why someone commits a crime, and none of those examples have to do with skin color. Now if someone commits a racial prejudice crime in this nation or elsewhere, simply because they hate a person for the "color of their skin," now you can call that a crime based on skin color, because the person actually committed the crime due to hatred of the victim(s) "skin color" (i.e, lynching) and a racial hatred crime against someone's skin color, my friend, is an actual "fact" in American history...check your history books, even though they probably deleted that section on purpose.. There is absolutely nothing "Pristeen", "Pure", or "Perfect" about any human being on this earth. We all err. all races have persons within their particular group that is capable of committing a crime, skin color is not a requirement, Statements like yours can be very misleading and that is what leads to stereotypical and negative views on particular groups in this country. For you to say Blacks are more likely to commit crimes more than any other race "in the nation" is basically stereotyping all Black people as potential criminals. That's BS. There are many crimes committed by those outside of the Black population, but often times it just doesn't get reported or showcased as much in the media (i.e., newspapers/tv, etc.) at the same level as those crimes reported within the Black community. Now if you do not believe that, then you are truly sleeping. I hope you take the time to educate yourself on various races/cultures, etc, and stop relying on stereotypical nonsense and misinformation. Peace [Edited 6/23/08 21:08pm] http://prince.org/msg/15/286132
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greenpixies said: ][Flame snipped - June7]
Oh larwd..... If u want some censored shit.......go elsewhere. If u want the TRUTH, come 2 me. | |
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2elijah said: I LAYETH THE SMACKDOWN ON YOU!
Ouch!
As to Imus - that old dog needs to be put out to pasture. He won't be, because he expresses the racism that many want to but feel to embarrassed to do, so they let people like Imus do it for them. | |
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BlaqueKnight said: 2elijah said: I LAYETH THE SMACKDOWN ON YOU!
Ouch!
As to Imus - that old dog needs to be put out to pasture. He won't be, because he expresses the racism that many want to but feel to embarrassed to do, so they let people like Imus do it for them. Imus is just an old dog trying to hang on to his bone. He's from the old school and unfortunately doesn't feel his has to respect persons of color, because apparently he was taught that way. It is a sin and a shame that one could live their life, burning all their energy hating on something they cannot change, and refuse to accept others outside of their race, as equal to them as humans. Imus is an old fool who was apparently raised to think that way about people outside of his own race. When it's time for his ass to leave this world, he'll be six feet down under, buried without underwear or shoes on...so really, how much better can he be than you or I?
(by the way, that "layeth the smackdown" quote you put under my name in your post is hilarious..only thing missing there is....BAM!!. )[Edited 6/23/08 20:01pm] http://prince.org/msg/15/286132
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greenpixies said: BlaqueKnight said: Actually "I" didn't say that, the author of the article did. So what would you call his response of “Well, there you go. Now we know.”? Sorry, you're right you didn't say it so I corrected it. I think his response is an attempt to convey an affirmation of the facts. ][Flame snipped - June7] that's probably the most ignorant shit i've read all day  | |
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I honestly think Imus was trying 2 say Pac was being picked on because he was Black. That is what it sounded like 2 me. If u want some censored shit.......go elsewhere. If u want the TRUTH, come 2 me. | |
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I like Don Imus | |
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HatrinaHaterwitz said: What color is Don Imus?
White Well, there you go. Now we know. Racism - alive and well EVERYWHERE!! | |
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HatrinaHaterwitz said: What color is Don Imus?
White Well, there you go. Now we know. [Two wrongs don't make a right... keep it civil folks! - June7] |
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Graycap23 said: I honestly think Imus was trying 2 say Pac was being picked on because he was Black. That is what it sounded like 2 me.
Apparently, he's reading this board! Stop giving him excuses. 
http://www.huffingtonpost...08845.html The AP's Cristian Salazar reports that Don Imus addressed Monday's controversial comments on Dallas Cowboys cornerback Adam "Pacman" Jones on his radio show Tuesday morning: Don Imus said Tuesday morning on his radio show that he was trying to "make a sarcastic point" with his latest on-air remarks about race, but that they had been misunderstood. Imus resurrected his radio career six months ago with a pledge to mend the wounds caused by a racist and sexist comment he made about a women's basketball team. On Tuesday he said he was following the spirit of that promise by calling attention to the unfair treatment of blacks _ in this case the arrests of suspended Dallas Cowboys cornerback Adam Jones. "What people should be outraged about is that they arrest blacks for no reason," Imus said Tuesday. "I mean, there's no reason to arrest this kid six times. Maybe he did something once, but everyone does something once." He called the flurry of criticism surrounding the comments "ridiculous" and said that his program's cast is now more diverse than ever _ and includes a black producer and two black co-hosts, a man and a woman. "How insane would I have to be? What would I be thinking?" Imus wondered aloud. On his radio show Monday morning, Imus asked "What color is he?" after being told about Jones, who was suspended from the NFL in 2007 and has been arrested six times (listen here). Jones, in an interview with the Dally Morning News, said he was "upset" by Imus' comments and that he would pray for the controversial radio host: Jones was unaware of the comments until a reporter played him a tape Monday night. "I'm truly upset about the comments," Jones said. "Obviously Mr. Imus has problems with African-Americans. I'm upset, and I hope the station he works for handles it accordingly. I will pray for him." Late Monday, a station representative said it was unlikely Imus would face any disciplinary action for the comments: WABC and Citadel Broadcasting Corp. Vice President Phil Boyce said Imus would explain his comments on his Tuesday morning show and said it was unlikely the broadcasters would take disciplinary action. Boyce said Imus had explained himself in a private conversation Monday afternoon and the explanation was satisfactory. "I think some people may be misunderstanding what he meant," Boyce said. [Edited 6/24/08 8:30am] | |
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With permission from June7 I am allowed to say as according to this link: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/...e/race.htm that as recent as 2005 blacks are 7 times as likely to commit murder than whites.
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2elijah said: greenpixies said: Sorry, you're right you didn't say it so I corrected it. I think his response is an attempt to convey an affirmation of the facts. ][Flame snipped - June7] Really? So who is going to convey the affirmation of the facts of how many whites actually lynched and burned Black people back in the day in front of crowds that just stood there and looked on? Or do they get a pass? Pray tell who kept a count on those that committed those crimes and got away with it? How in the world would you know that " ??? You just made a very, generalized, stereotypical statement. You have just given everyone the impression that because of an African-American's skin color, that they are more likely to commit crimes than any other race in the entire nation..No. I didn't say because of their skin color they commit more crimes. I said they, blacks, commit more crime. http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/...e/race.htm I didn't give motive. How in the hell did you arrive at a conclusion like that? You didn't just pick a "segment" of that population, you basically implied all "African-Americans" in this nation, when you made that statement.
This is how I arrived at that conclusion: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/...e/race.htm Let me throw some reality on you, it does not matter what percentage of whites or blacks or hispanics are in this nation regarding crime, every one of those groups are capable of committing a crime. It has nothing to do with the color of their skin. The point is, a crime is a crime regardless of who commits it. I find your statement very stereotypical and offensive.
You're right a crime is a crime and everyone has the ability to commit it. It's just that blacks commit murder 7 times more than whites. You can find it offensive but it's the truth. Also, if you think some white people do not commit crimes, think again. So do hispanics, asians, arabs, etc. I worked for an Admission and Release administrator in a particular state in the Dept. of Corrections, and did the weekly and monthly reports of how many whites, blacks, hispanics, etc., prisoners came into the system in that state. I have seen many prisoners' files, and I am here to tell you that there are some white people that commit crimes just like anyone else. You know why? Because they are just as much part of the same human race like everyone else and Humans err, regardless of skin color.
Of course whites commit crimes. I never said otherwise. NEWSFLASH Greepixies:People don't commit crimes based on their skin color.
I never said they did. It could be based on any of the following situations: how they were raised, their character, the situations behind why they committed a crime (i.e., jealous husband/wife/lover/child abuser/domestic violence/gang banger/possibly poverty/drugs, etc.) all sorts of reasons why someone commits a crime, and none of those examples have to do with skin color.
Now if someone commits a racial prejudice crime in this nation or elsewhere, simply because they hate a person for the "color of their skin," now you can call that a crime based on skin color, because the person actually committed the crime due to hatred of the victim(s) "skin color" (i.e, lynching) and a racial hatred crime against someone's skin color, my friend, is an actual "fact" in American history...check your history books, even though they probably deleted that section on purpose.. There is absolutely nothing "Pristeen", "Pure", or "Perfect" about any human being on this earth. We all err. all races have persons within their particular group that is capable of committing a crime, skin color is not a requirement, Statements like yours can be very misleading and that is what leads to stereotypical and negative views on particular groups in this country. For you to say Blacks are more likely to commit crimes more than any other race "in the nation" is basically stereotyping all Black people as potential criminals. That's BS. There are many crimes committed by those outside of the Black population, but often times it just doesn't get reported or showcased as much in the media (i.e., newspapers/tv, etc.) at the same level as those crimes reported within the Black community. Now if you do not believe that, then you are truly sleeping. I hope you take the time to educate yourself on various races/cultures, etc, and stop relying on stereotypical nonsense and misinformation. Peace [Edited 6/23/08 21:08pm] It's not misinformation: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/...e/race.htm Peace attempt to get the links working edit [Edited 6/24/08 9:17am] The cynical and indifferent know not what they miss. For their mistake is an impediment not only to our progress as a civilization but to their happiness as individuals.
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InsatiableCream said: greenpixies said: Sorry, you're right you didn't say it so I corrected it. I think his response is an attempt to convey an affirmation of the facts. ][Flame snipped - June7] that's probably the most ignorant shit i've read all day How is the truth ignorant? http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/...e/race.htm [Edited 6/24/08 9:18am] The cynical and indifferent know not what they miss. For their mistake is an impediment not only to our progress as a civilization but to their happiness as individuals.
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greenpixies said: With permission from June7 I am allowed to say as according to this link: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/...e/race.htm that as recent as 2005 blacks are 7 times as likely to commit murder than whites.
I will research more, since I wrote that response yesterday and have since shut off my computer, to display sources that are more recent to back up the objective truth, sincerity, and facts of my statement. It is never my intention to flame people. My only intention and obsession is truth. Truth and nothing but the truth. So my point is that perhaps that is what Don Imus meant. But more has developed and we now know that he was defending blacks against racial profiling, which is what he said as told in this link: http://news.yahoo.com/s/a...ce_comment Oh you can speak truth as you so wish, as long as you know the truth of America's horrendous and horrific and shameful past of crimes committed by many who hated those of a "particular skin color", and those were crimes committed because of "racial hatred" against persons of a particular skin color. Many of those who committed those crimes, sat in church on Sunday and prayed, then went out and raped, murdered and lynched Monday through Friday, now if you want "truth" then there it is. So when many of us talk about that, and previous or current racial hatred crimes committed against persons of color, then I want to see if you will accuse us of race baiting or simply "telling the truth" as you say you do.. You continue to post what you feel is the truth, concerning African-Americans. and I will do the same concerning those of the Black community and those outside of it, since you have been given permission to post "truth", that means it works both ways. [Edited 6/24/08 9:13am] http://prince.org/msg/15/286132
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2elijah said: greenpixies said: With permission from June7 I am allowed to say as according to this link: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/...e/race.htm that as recent as 2005 blacks are 7 times as likely to commit murder than whites.
I will research more, since I wrote that response yesterday and have since shut off my computer, to display sources that are more recent to back up the objective truth, sincerity, and facts of my statement. It is never my intention to flame people. My only intention and obsession is truth. Truth and nothing but the truth. So my point is that perhaps that is what Don Imus meant. But more has developed and we now know that he was defending blacks against racial profiling, which is what he said as told in this link: http://news.yahoo.com/s/a...ce_comment Oh you can speak truth as you so wish, as long as you know the truth of America's horrendous and horrific and shameful past of crimes committed by many who hated those of a "particular skin color", and those were crimes committed because of "racial hatred" against persons of a particular skin color. Many of those who committed those crimes, sat in church on Sunday and prayed, then went out and raped, murdered and lynched Monday through Friday, now if you want "truth" then there it is. So when many of us talk about that, and previous or current racial hatred crimes committed against persons of color, then I want to see if you will accuse us of race baiting or simply "telling the truth" as you say you do.. You continue to post what you feel is the truth, concerning African-Americans. and I will do the same concerning those of the Black community and those outside of it, since you have been given permission to post "truth", that means it works both ways. [Edited 6/24/08 9:13am] Why bother? If u want some censored shit.......go elsewhere. If u want the TRUTH, come 2 me. | |
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2elijah said: greenpixies said: With permission from June7 I am allowed to say as according to this link: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/...e/race.htm that as recent as 2005 blacks are 7 times as likely to commit murder than whites.
I will research more, since I wrote that response yesterday and have since shut off my computer, to display sources that are more recent to back up the objective truth, sincerity, and facts of my statement. It is never my intention to flame people. My only intention and obsession is truth. Truth and nothing but the truth. So my point is that perhaps that is what Don Imus meant. But more has developed and we now know that he was defending blacks against racial profiling, which is what he said as told in this link: http://news.yahoo.com/s/a...ce_comment Oh you can speak truth as you so wish, as long as you know the truth of America's horrendous and horrific and shameful past of crimes committed by many who hated those of a "particular skin color", and those were crimes committed because of "racial hatred" against persons of a particular skin color. Many of those who committed those crimes, sat in church on Sunday and prayed, then went out and raped, murdered and lynched Monday through Friday, now if you want "truth" then there it is. So when many of us talk about that, and previous or current racial hatred crimes committed against persons of color, then I want to see if you will accuse us of race baiting or simply "telling the truth" as you say you do.. You continue to post what you feel is the truth, concerning African-Americans. and I will do the same concerning those of the Black community and those outside of it, since you have been given permission to post "truth", that means it works both ways. [Edited 6/24/08 9:13am] [greenpixies has, like all members here, been given permission to post his point of view that is based on a link to a reputable source. This permission, again available to all orgers, only allows discussion of his pov, as well as others' pov in response to his. prince.org does not necessarily agree with any one person's pov, here. This is merely a message board with all pov's available to discuss. Anything beyond that, or a thread or post that becomes against the site rules, will be dealt with accordingly. Thank you, June7] |
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Graycap23 said: 2elijah said: Oh you can speak truth as you so wish, as long as you know the truth of America's horrendous and horrific and shameful past of crimes committed by many who hated those of a "particular skin color", and those were crimes committed because of "racial hatred" against persons of a particular skin color. Many of those who committed those crimes, sat in church on Sunday and prayed, then went out and raped, murdered and lynched Monday through Friday, now if you want "truth" then there it is. So when many of us talk about that, and previous or current racial hatred crimes committed against persons of color, then I want to see if you will accuse us of race baiting or simply "telling the truth" as you say you do.. You continue to post what you feel is the truth, concerning African-Americans. and I will do the same concerning those of the Black community and those outside of it, since you have been given permission to post "truth", that means it works both ways. [Edited 6/24/08 9:13am] Why bother? | |
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