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If and when Mr. Obama becomes president. If and when Obama becomes president, does anyone think or believe that just by an African American becoming president will decrease racism in America? As far as not needing affirmative action and just basic Civil rights. | |
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Purple123 said: If and when Obama becomes president, does anyone think or believe that just by an African American becoming president will decrease racism in America? As far as not needing affirmative action and just basic Civil rights.
only we, as a society can decrease racism. this is a message that anyone has the right to achieve, and in this case lead the country, but it is all of us who must continue to recognize how we have benefitted from inherent racism, and contributed to the undercurrent of racism that is still prevalent in our country. "Truth belongs to a different realm of existence and significance than facts and reality." | |
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Purple123 said: If and when Obama becomes president, does anyone think or believe that just by an African American becoming president will decrease racism in America? As far as not needing affirmative action and just basic Civil rights.
If he was truly African American and not bi racial this might be a good discussion. card carrying member of The .org Conservative Union | |
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weused2luvhim said: Purple123 said: If and when Obama becomes president, does anyone think or believe that just by an African American becoming president will decrease racism in America? As far as not needing affirmative action and just basic Civil rights.
If he was truly African American and not bi racial this might be a good discussion. In this country, if a person has any African-American blood in them, they're black. It was even written law!!! I hate when people try to take away Obama's blackness by saying he's "bi-racial". He sees himself as a black man, therefore he's a black man!!! Either he's too black, or he's not black enough!!! JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!! | |
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weused2luvhim said: Purple123 said: If and when Obama becomes president, does anyone think or believe that just by an African American becoming president will decrease racism in America? As far as not needing affirmative action and just basic Civil rights.
If he was truly African American and not bi racial this might be a good discussion. Now that's the worst thing I've heard in a long time.What is "truly African American"??  [Edited 8/28/08 5:37am] If God one day struck me blind, your beauty I'd still see | |
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Paris9748430 said: weused2luvhim said: If he was truly African American and not bi racial this might be a good discussion. In this country, if a person has any African-American blood in them, they're black. It was even written law!!! I hate when people try to take away Obama's blackness by saying he's "bi-racial". He sees himself as a black man, therefore he's a black man!!! Either he's too black, or he's not black enough!!! Don't let it get to you. They know that he IS about to be the next President so now all of sudden he's not African American!  | |
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bluesbaby said: Purple123 said: If and when Obama becomes president, does anyone think or believe that just by an African American becoming president will decrease racism in America? As far as not needing affirmative action and just basic Civil rights.
only we, as a society can decrease racism. this is a message that anyone has the right to achieve, and in this case lead the country, but it is all of us who must continue to recognize how we have benefitted from inherent racism, and contributed to the undercurrent of racism that is still prevalent in our country. Amen sista friend mon   |
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Dayclear said: weused2luvhim said: If he was truly African American and not bi racial this might be a good discussion. Now that's the worst thing I've heard in a long time.What is "truly African American"??
[Edited 8/28/08 5:37am] I don't know and I'm African-American. The fact is that it is highly unlikely that the definitions and descriptions of people as African-American or Caucasian or Asian or whatever will cease despite the actual percentages of 'blackness' 'whiteness' 'asian-ness' that they have. We are not going to just start calling people "biracial" "multiracial" ... or whatever. It's not going to happen like that. Barack Obama identfies himself as a black man. Why can't people just respect that? If he says "I'm biracial", then we'd have to respect that too I guess. But he doesn't. So the PC'ers out there will just have to get over it. | |
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Purple123 said: If and when Obama becomes president, does anyone think or believe that just by an African American becoming president will decrease racism in America? As far as not needing affirmative action and just basic Civil rights.
If? Get back 2 me in November..... If u want some censored shit.......go elsewhere. If u want the TRUTH, come 2 me. | |
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Paris9748430 said: weused2luvhim said: If he was truly African American and not bi racial this might be a good discussion. In this country, if a person has any African-American blood in them, they're black. It was even written law!!! I hate when people try to take away Obama's blackness by saying he's "bi-racial". He sees himself as a black man, therefore he's a black man!!! Either he's too black, or he's not black enough!!!  “Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative.” John Stuart Mill | |
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JellyBean said: Paris9748430 said: In this country, if a person has any African-American blood in them, they're black. It was even written law!!! I hate when people try to take away Obama's blackness by saying he's "bi-racial". He sees himself as a black man, therefore he's a black man!!! Either he's too black, or he's not black enough!!! Very true. I don't know that if she gets the win if it will decrease the racism in America...however it will give us a better light than we have throughout the world. People wont look at African Americans so bad. | |
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I think the Democratic Convention has absolutely failed at speaking to the truth of why racists oppose Obama (I'm not talking about people who have problems with his platform -- I'm talking racists).
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ThreadBare said: I think the Democratic Convention has absolutely failed at speaking to the truth of why racists oppose Obama (I'm not talking about people who have problems with his platform -- I'm talking racists).
I've seen white pundits continually ask other whites to speak about racism and why it might affect Obama. I've yet to hear someone say: "Well, there's a segment in society that thinks blacks are inferior to whites." It's that sentiment at the heart of America's racist policies, that has outlived the demise of (most) of those policies. Would Obama being elected to the White House change that? Not necessarily. But, it would be an important milestone for a country with such a racist history. Everyone is staying clear of the subject because Obama said himself that its not about what race he is anymore... | |
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ThreadBare said: I think the Democratic Convention has absolutely failed at speaking to the truth of why racists oppose Obama (I'm not talking about people who have problems with his platform -- I'm talking racists).
I've seen white pundits continually ask other whites to speak about racism and why it might affect Obama. I've yet to hear someone say: "Well, there's a segment in society that thinks blacks are inferior to whites." . I think it's rather that people who believe that won't say so. They'd rather accuse Obama's supporters of choosing him because he's black rather than admit to choosing Clinton or McCain because they're not black. | |
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alwayslate said: ThreadBare said: I think the Democratic Convention has absolutely failed at speaking to the truth of why racists oppose Obama (I'm not talking about people who have problems with his platform -- I'm talking racists).
I've seen white pundits continually ask other whites to speak about racism and why it might affect Obama. I've yet to hear someone say: "Well, there's a segment in society that thinks blacks are inferior to whites." . I think it's rather that people who believe that won't say so. They'd rather accuse Obama's supporters of choosing him because he's black rather than admit to choosing Clinton or McCain because they're not black. but, we can't event get folks to admit to why. It's couched behind, "Well, they're not necessarily comfortable with him because he's 'new' and he went to that church and they see his wife as being 'angry'..." Never about why some blacks are angry about stuff happening to them this week, not to our slave ancestors. The lack of diversity in the news biz is a real trip. "...and, if it was good in the past, it's still good." -- Sly Stone, Woodstock | |
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paisleypark4 said: Everyone is staying clear of the subject because Obama said himself that its not about what race he is anymore... Just as always..... If u want some censored shit.......go elsewhere. If u want the TRUTH, come 2 me. | |
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ThreadBare said: alwayslate said: I think it's rather that people who believe that won't say so. They'd rather accuse Obama's supporters of choosing him because he's black rather than admit to choosing Clinton or McCain because they're not black. but, we can't event get folks to admit to why. It's couched behind, "Well, they're not necessarily comfortable with him because he's 'new' and he went to that church and they see his wife as being 'angry'..." Never about why some blacks are angry about stuff happening to them this week, not to our slave ancestors. The lack of diversity in the news biz is a real trip. U got a point there....however all that will do is upset the white voters...who will turn it in2 a racism thing when African AMericans want to be talked about thus- move those voters to McCain...-or remain undecided. In the end making Obama look bad. [Edited 8/28/08 8:10am] | |
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Purple123 said: If and when Obama becomes president, does anyone think or believe that just by an African American becoming president will decrease racism in America? As far as not needing affirmative action and just basic Civil rights.
Who would think that? Racism is in our individual hearts and minds. That's like saying a rich president means no more poverty. Meanwhile, civic knowledge is enhanced by discussing public affairs, taking part in civic activities and reading about current events and history, the group said.
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weused2luvhim said: Purple123 said: If and when Obama becomes president, does anyone think or believe that just by an African American becoming president will decrease racism in America? As far as not needing affirmative action and just basic Civil rights.
If he was truly African American and not bi racial this might be a good discussion. How many white people do you see claiming him as white? I thought so. Meanwhile, civic knowledge is enhanced by discussing public affairs, taking part in civic activities and reading about current events and history, the group said.
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What do you call a black President? N_____
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paisleypark4 said: JellyBean said: Very true. I don't know that if she gets the win if it will decrease the racism in America...however it will give us a better light than we have throughout the world. People wont look at African Americans so bad. Do you believe that? Yeah, every stereotype will fade away like they did when Colin Powell became Secretary of State, when Condi Rice became Secretary of State. Any achievement is individualized and moreso in the case of minorities. Achievers are considered the exception not the rule. Obama on the street would be just another black man to watch out for. Meanwhile, civic knowledge is enhanced by discussing public affairs, taking part in civic activities and reading about current events and history, the group said.
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SUPRMAN said: weused2luvhim said: If he was truly African American and not bi racial this might be a good discussion. How many white people do you see claiming him as white? I thought so. When he wins, I'll bet you 20.00 that changes! Is it a bet? | |
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weused2luvhim said: Purple123 said: If and when Obama becomes president, does anyone think or believe that just by an African American becoming president will decrease racism in America? As far as not needing affirmative action and just basic Civil rights.
If he was truly African American and not bi racial this might be a good discussion. Yeah, and when he got called the N word by racists, I'm sure they thought he was "bi-racial". People have to really learn about the history of racism in America before they make ridiculous comments. New World Order (NWO) - Bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher: Deal with it, muthafuckas! 
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SUPRMAN said: paisleypark4 said: Very true. I don't know that if she gets the win if it will decrease the racism in America...however it will give us a better light than we have throughout the world. People wont look at African Americans so bad. Do you believe that? Yeah, every stereotype will fade away like they did when Colin Powell became Secretary of State, when Condi Rice became Secretary of State. Any achievement is individualized and moreso in the case of minorities. Achievers are considered the exception not the rule. Obama on the street would be just another black man to watch out for. I didnt say they all will fade away, im talking the world wont look at us so bad. Africans look down on us, the Ethiopians look down, people from Iraq have all told me that everytime they see black people on TV in their country we arent doing anyhting that supports our race, all they see are bad things coming from us. I even learned on BET's College Hill that black people in Europe hate the mainstream type of rap music that has come from America now and days. I think with Obama being president it will relieve THOSE issues, because they love him. However not every racist person in America will turn another cheek. | |
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ThreadBare said: I think the Democratic Convention has absolutely failed at speaking to the truth of why racists oppose Obama (I'm not talking about people who have problems with his platform -- I'm talking racists).
I've seen white pundits continually ask other whites to speak about racism and why it might affect Obama. I've yet to hear someone say: "Well, there's a segment in society that thinks blacks are inferior to whites." It's that sentiment at the heart of America's racist policies, that has outlived the demise of (most) of those policies. Would Obama being elected to the White House change that? Not necessarily. But, it would be an important milestone for a country with such a racist history. I agree 100%. If he wins, it's saying alot about the decrease of racism in the U.S.A. Surely it'll never ever go away, but, if we as an America had the mentality of 1900's to the 1970 or 80's he would NOT even be a contender in any party. Ok, ok, we had Jesse Jackson, but he didn't get as far as Mr. Obama has in our age. Believe this, if the numbers of white people didn't vote for him like they have in this election, he would not be the Democratic nominee for president. That says a great amount for race relations in this country. Now, you can not believe that if you want to, but it's true. Another factor is the Latino vote, there's more Latino's that will vote now than ever before and they play a huge part in this election, that's why McCain and Obama are fighting for their votes. The question I ask was NOT will Mr. Obama being elected would stop racism, but would it help decrease it? I believe that if he gets elected as president, that's your answer right there. | |
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HatrinaHaterwitz said: SUPRMAN said: [/b]
How many white people do you see claiming him as white? I thought so. When he wins, I'll bet you 20.00 that changes! Is it a bet? No if he wins, then he'll be biracial. What they like will be his "white" side. What they don't . . . . . Meanwhile, civic knowledge is enhanced by discussing public affairs, taking part in civic activities and reading about current events and history, the group said.
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SUPRMAN said: No if he wins, then he'll be biracial. What they like will be his "white" side. What they don't . . . . . will be the dark side??  | |
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paisleypark4 said: SUPRMAN said: Do you believe that? Yeah, every stereotype will fade away like they did when Colin Powell became Secretary of State, when Condi Rice became Secretary of State. Any achievement is individualized and moreso in the case of minorities. Achievers are considered the exception not the rule. Obama on the street would be just another black man to watch out for. I didnt say they all will fade away, im talking the world wont look at us so bad. Africans look down on us, the Ethiopians look down, people from Iraq have all told me that everytime they see black people on TV in their country we arent doing anyhting that supports our race, all they see are bad things coming from us. I even learned on BET's College Hill that black people in Europe hate the mainstream type of rap music that has come from America now and days. I think with Obama being president it will relieve THOSE issues, because they love him. However not every racist person in America will turn another cheek. Turn the other cheek? I think you meant turn over a new leaf, and no they won't. Obama won't change rappers tone, or perceptions of rap. You are expecting way too much. He won't have that influence on culture. And what the media shows will not change because Obama is President, nor can Obama require them to. Meanwhile, civic knowledge is enhanced by discussing public affairs, taking part in civic activities and reading about current events and history, the group said.
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Purple123 said: ThreadBare said: I think the Democratic Convention has absolutely failed at speaking to the truth of why racists oppose Obama (I'm not talking about people who have problems with his platform -- I'm talking racists).
I've seen white pundits continually ask other whites to speak about racism and why it might affect Obama. I've yet to hear someone say: "Well, there's a segment in society that thinks blacks are inferior to whites." It's that sentiment at the heart of America's racist policies, that has outlived the demise of (most) of those policies. Would Obama being elected to the White House change that? Not necessarily. But, it would be an important milestone for a country with such a racist history. I agree 100%. If he wins, it's saying alot about the decrease of racism in the U.S.A. Surely it'll never ever go away, but, if we as an America had the mentality of 1900's to the 1970 or 80's he would NOT even be a contender in any party. Ok, ok, we had Jesse Jackson, but he didn't get as far as Mr. Obama has in our age. Believe this, if the numbers of white people didn't vote for him like they have in this election, he would not be the Democratic nominee for president. That says a great amount for race relations in this country. Now, you can not believe that if you want to, but it's true. Another factor is the Latino vote, there's more Latino's that will vote now than ever before and they play a huge part in this election, that's why McCain and Obama are fighting for their votes. The question I ask was NOT will Mr. Obama being elected would stop racism, but would it help decrease it? I believe that if he gets elected as president, that's your answer right there. Rose colored glasses. When you take them off, you'll see that they are only voting for one man, not for Blacks in general, or for minorities. Jesse didn't get votes because he sounded like he was all about Black Power. Why would they vote for what they suspected was an angry black man? Obama not talking about color, means no guilt trips which is why whites will vote for him. They can be "soft" racists now but insist they aren't because they voted for Obama. Meanwhile, civic knowledge is enhanced by discussing public affairs, taking part in civic activities and reading about current events and history, the group said.
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people from Iraq have all told me that everytime they see black people on TV in their country we arent doing anyhting that supports our race, all they see are bad things coming from us.
 Wait. Some people from IRAQ are calling out another group of people for negative images. Wow, I truly hope you made that up  .New World Order (NWO) - Bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher: Deal with it, muthafuckas!
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