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vntalove

why no religion?....seems to be just a polital forum

I was just reading all the post, and I noticed that it's all politics. I mean, I do realize that election time is coming and the bad state of the United States (and the world for that matter), But isnt anyone pondering the state of our individual lives? Even if it's not a discussion about organized religion, what about spirituality....things going on unseen? does anyone ever think that most of the "political" woes stem from the fact that alot (not all) of people involved in politics have shyed away from "spiritual" thoughts.

The world wont stop if we made a little more time to just check our true selves. It may on the other hand stop if we forget to.
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Reply #1 posted 09/30/08 4:48pm

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vntalove said:

I was just reading all the post, and I noticed that it's all politics. I mean, I do realize that election time is coming and the bad state of the United States (and the world for that matter), But isnt anyone pondering the state of our individual lives? Even if it's not a discussion about organized religion, what about spirituality....things going on unseen? does anyone ever think that most of the "political" woes stem from the fact that alot (not all) of people involved in politics have shyed away from "spiritual" thoughts.

The world wont stop if we made a little more time to just check our true selves. It may on the other hand stop if we forget to.
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there are a few religion threads on here. i was planning one for later in the evening.

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Reply #2 posted 09/30/08 4:50pm

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http://prince.org/msg/105/283790

http://prince.org/msg/105/284087

http://prince.org/msg/105/283364

http://prince.org/msg/105/283886

http://prince.org/msg/105/283569

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Reply #3 posted 09/30/08 4:53pm

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vntalove said:

I was just reading all the post, and I noticed that it's all politics. I mean, I do realize that election time is coming and the bad state of the United States (and the world for that matter), But isnt anyone pondering the state of our individual lives? Even if it's not a discussion about organized religion, what about spirituality....things going on unseen? does anyone ever think that most of the "political" woes stem from the fact that alot (not all) of people involved in politics have shyed away from "spiritual" thoughts.

The world wont stop if we made a little more time to just check our true selves. It may on the other hand stop if we forget to.
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Trust. We get enough religion in here.
And the soul searching you speak of . . . does it have to be done here, or can we do it personally and privately?

BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, 44TH PRESIDENT ELECT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

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Reply #4 posted 09/30/08 5:08pm

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vntalove said:

I was just reading all the post, and I noticed that it's all politics. I mean, I do realize that election time is coming and the bad state of the United States (and the world for that matter), But isnt anyone pondering the state of our individual lives? Even if it's not a discussion about organized religion, what about spirituality....things going on unseen? does anyone ever think that most of the "political" woes stem from the fact that alot (not all) of people involved in politics have shyed away from "spiritual" thoughts.

The world wont stop if we made a little more time to just check our true selves. It may on the other hand stop if we forget to.
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"Everything else can wait, but our search for God cannot wait." Paramahansa Yogananda

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Reply #5 posted 09/30/08 7:36pm

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I think it's mainly because there's a national election in little over a month.

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Reply #6 posted 09/30/08 9:49pm

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benni said:

vntalove said:

I was just reading all the post, and I noticed that it's all politics. I mean, I do realize that election time is coming and the bad state of the United States (and the world for that matter), But isnt anyone pondering the state of our individual lives? Even if it's not a discussion about organized religion, what about spirituality....things going on unseen? does anyone ever think that most of the "political" woes stem from the fact that alot (not all) of people involved in politics have shyed away from "spiritual" thoughts.

The world wont stop if we made a little more time to just check our true selves. It may on the other hand stop if we forget to.
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"Everything else can wait, but our search for God cannot wait." Paramahansa Yogananda



But he didn't say it had to be public! biggrin

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Reply #7 posted 10/01/08 12:07am

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vntalove said:

I was just reading all the post, and I noticed that it's all politics. I mean, I do realize that election time is coming and the bad state of the United States (and the world for that matter), But isnt anyone pondering the state of our individual lives? Even if it's not a discussion about organized religion, what about spirituality....things going on unseen? does anyone ever think that most of the "political" woes stem from the fact that alot (not all) of people involved in politics have shyed away from "spiritual" thoughts.


arrow nod yes

but you won't get too many 'yes' cause alot will reject what you are saying.... doesn't matter, cause God is still lifting His hand from the economy....and this is only the beginning...

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Reply #8 posted 10/01/08 12:27am

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Flowers2 said:

vntalove said:

I was just reading all the post, and I noticed that it's all politics. I mean, I do realize that election time is coming and the bad state of the United States (and the world for that matter), But isnt anyone pondering the state of our individual lives? Even if it's not a discussion about organized religion, what about spirituality....things going on unseen? does anyone ever think that most of the "political" woes stem from the fact that alot (not all) of people involved in politics have shyed away from "spiritual" thoughts.


arrow nod yes

but you won't get too many 'yes' cause alot will reject what you are saying.... doesn't matter, cause God is still lifting His hand from the economy....and this is only the beginning...

"cause God is still lifting His hand from the economy"
please explain how you figure this?
[Edited 10/1/08 0:29am]

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Reply #9 posted 10/01/08 1:35am

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rodman2 said:

Flowers2 said:



arrow nod yes

but you won't get too many 'yes' cause alot will reject what you are saying.... doesn't matter, cause God is still lifting His hand from the economy....and this is only the beginning...

"cause God is still lifting His hand from the economy"
please explain how you figure this?
[Edited 10/1/08 0:29am]



I would like to know what you mean by this too ??

"when one person suffers from a delusion it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion."
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Reply #10 posted 10/01/08 1:44am

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morningsong said:




Not forgetting:

http://prince.org/msg/7/283829

http://prince.org/msg/7/282471

http://prince.org/msg/105/283637

http://prince.org/msg/105/283798

http://prince.org/msg/105/282815

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Reply #11 posted 10/01/08 3:01am

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rodman2 said:

Flowers2 said:



arrow nod yes

but you won't get too many 'yes' cause alot will reject what you are saying.... doesn't matter, cause God is still lifting His hand from the economy....and this is only the beginning...

"cause God is still lifting His hand from the economy"
please explain how you figure this?
[Edited 10/1/08 0:29am]



with all the corruption of the US, The Lord is tired... our country is a mess.....all cause of the 'Almighty Dollar'.... we're suppose to use money to help people.. instead... we use people and keep the money, rich stay rich.. poor stay poor, tons of injustice.. you think The Lord is happy with all this? folks (and the government) think The Lord doesn't see (half of them don't believe He is real and that goes for the poor ones too..that right there is a high offense).... people are doing anything and everything because of the love of money, rich and poor .... so yeah, now The Lord has everyone's attention (cause folks are praying now).. pulling away 'the comfort zone' of 'this country's god' ..money.....

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Reply #12 posted 10/01/08 3:24am

razor

Flowers2 said:

rodman2 said:


"cause God is still lifting His hand from the economy"
please explain how you figure this?
[Edited 10/1/08 0:29am]



with all the corruption of the US, The Lord is tired... our country is a mess.....all cause of the 'Almighty Dollar'.... we're suppose to use money to help people.. instead... we use people and keep the money, rich stay rich.. poor stay poor, tons of injustice.. you think The Lord is happy with all this? folks (and the government) think The Lord doesn't see (half of them don't believe He is real and that goes for the poor ones too..[b]that right there is a high offense).... people are doing anything and everything because of the love of money, rich and poor .... so yeah, now The Lord has everyone's attention (cause folks are praying now).. pulling away 'the comfort zone' of 'this country's god' ..money..... [/b]


Why is it an offense? People are entitled to their own opinions. Aethism is an extremely valid viewpoint, and even if you disagree with that, it certainly is not an "offense" to hold such a view.

So poverty and hard times drive people to prayer? What does that say about the nature of belief? And what is it you think the lord is going to do? What did he do after the Great Depression or the stock market crash of 1987? Stop looking to God to solve your problems, or societies ills. Only we can do that. And whether you like it or not, in 36-48 months, when the economy has recovered, we will all revert to where we were before this crisis. Thankfully the majority of people (even the "evil" bankers) are good people just trying to look after their families and do what they can for the wider world. Yes, we can do more, yes, the system is not perfect, but world conditions are improving all the time (in the long term sense). Or do you believe things were better 50 years, 100 years ago?
Or perhaps you believe this is the start of the end of days? In which case, presumably you welcome this crisis and the ones to come? So where is your incentive to contribute to it's solution?

Bottom line, people's faith or lack of it is irrlevant. Only we can sort this out and improve the system. If we wait for God to do it, we'll be waiting a mighty long time...
[Edited 10/1/08 3:27am]

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Flowers2 said:

rodman2 said:


"cause God is still lifting His hand from the economy"
please explain how you figure this?
[Edited 10/1/08 0:29am]



with all the corruption of the US, The Lord is tired... our country is a mess.....all cause of the 'Almighty Dollar'.... we're suppose to use money to help people.. instead... we use people and keep the money, rich stay rich.. poor stay poor, tons of injustice.. you think The Lord is happy with all this? folks (and the government) think The Lord doesn't see (half of them don't believe He is real and that goes for the poor ones too..that right there is a high offense).... people are doing anything and everything because of the love of money, rich and poor .... so yeah, now The Lord has everyone's attention (cause folks are praying now).. pulling away 'the comfort zone' of 'this country's god' ..money.....



An offense !!!! -- THAT statement is offensive - what are you the thought police !? - I will respect your right to believe whatever you want to believe, please do not dis-respect others right to believe in what they choose.

I do agree with your other sentiments about materialism and the greed of the human race.

"when one person suffers from a delusion it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion."
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Reply #14 posted 10/01/08 6:45am

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vntalove said:

I was just reading all the post, and I noticed that it's all politics. I mean, I do realize that election time is coming and the bad state of the United States (and the world for that matter), But isnt anyone pondering the state of our individual lives? Even if it's not a discussion about organized religion, what about spirituality....things going on unseen? does anyone ever think that most of the "political" woes stem from the fact that alot (not all) of people involved in politics have shyed away from "spiritual" thoughts.

The world wont stop if we made a little more time to just check our true selves. It may on the other hand stop if we forget to.
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Checking ones true self has absolutely nothing to do with religion. Nothing at all.

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Reply #15 posted 10/01/08 8:13am

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vntalove said:

But isnt anyone pondering the state of our individual lives?
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there is only one answer to this question...

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Reply #16 posted 10/01/08 8:19am

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vntalove said:

I was just reading all the post, and I noticed that it's all politics. I mean, I do realize that election time is coming and the bad state of the United States (and the world for that matter), But isnt anyone pondering the state of our individual lives? Even if it's not a discussion about organized religion, what about spirituality....things going on unseen? does anyone ever think that most of the "political" woes stem from the fact that alot (not all) of people involved in politics have shyed away from "spiritual" thoughts.

The world wont stop if we made a little more time to just check our true selves. It may on the other hand stop if we forget to.
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does it make sense to go to McDonalds for the purpose of having a wholesome, home-cooked meal? does it???? (no).

does it make sense to come to prince.org in search of deep discussion on spirituality? ?? biggrin

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Reply #17 posted 10/01/08 9:35am

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XxAxX said:

vntalove said:

I was just reading all the post, and I noticed that it's all politics. I mean, I do realize that election time is coming and the bad state of the United States (and the world for that matter), But isnt anyone pondering the state of our individual lives? Even if it's not a discussion about organized religion, what about spirituality....things going on unseen? does anyone ever think that most of the "political" woes stem from the fact that alot (not all) of people involved in politics have shyed away from "spiritual" thoughts.

The world wont stop if we made a little more time to just check our true selves. It may on the other hand stop if we forget to.
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does it make sense to go to McDonalds for the purpose of having a wholesome, home-cooked meal? does it???? (no).

does it make sense to come to prince.org in search of deep discussion on spirituality? ?? biggrin



Hey you! Stop with the sense talk.

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Reply #18 posted 10/01/08 10:36am

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XxAxX said:

vntalove said:

I was just reading all the post, and I noticed that it's all politics. I mean, I do realize that election time is coming and the bad state of the United States (and the world for that matter), But isnt anyone pondering the state of our individual lives? Even if it's not a discussion about organized religion, what about spirituality....things going on unseen? does anyone ever think that most of the "political" woes stem from the fact that alot (not all) of people involved in politics have shyed away from "spiritual" thoughts.

The world wont stop if we made a little more time to just check our true selves. It may on the other hand stop if we forget to.
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does it make sense to go to McDonalds for the purpose of having a wholesome, home-cooked meal? does it???? (no).

does it make sense to come to prince.org in search of deep discussion on spirituality? ?? biggrin


lol

When you go to the cheese factory, don't complain about there being nothing but cheese!

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Reply #19 posted 10/01/08 2:59pm

vntalove

For everyone that answered my post with links to past Prince.org discussions..thanks, but they actually were just alot of talk about Mr. Nelsons religion. And to the others that think that religion/spirituality, is best swept under the carpet for when when we are "alone", you dont seem to mind giving your dime to express your feelings on "politics" out loud, and if you ask me - that's under the personal umbrella too, but I'm not saying your voice is not worth anything expressing in "public" did I?
All I was saying is this is a politics and religion discussion board, and 98% of the post are about politics.....but I guess it's true - if a cat looks in the corner of the room long enough....everyone in that room will start looking in that direction.....(?)---(i know that was weird, but i understood it neutral )

I do enjoy reading the post, either or. I was just wondering.

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Reply #20 posted 10/01/08 3:13pm

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Well, the floor is yours.


I do notice you, yourself haven't been quite specific about your beliefs, most of us have. Your turn.

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Reply #21 posted 10/01/08 3:55pm

vntalove

Morningsong.....

I hadnt thought about that when I made that comment. I just came to this forum to see what views were out there and see how receptive people are/were to that sort of discussion.
I do follow (loosley) a formal religion, but I am also interested in other religions, because there most likely is truth in most of them. and as far as spiritualty is concerned, I belive it is the basis for all these "formal religions". It's just that today people dont seem to want to learn more about whats really going on inside of us all, and focus on the outside effects constantly.

but I'm not really enthused about seeing any religious post, comments and such here anymore. I looked, and I put my question out there, and I got my answer(s). I'm not that deep and the question I asked isnt either. but thanks for the time.

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Reply #22 posted 10/01/08 4:01pm

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Hey it's election time in the U.S. and we just have a few weeks left before it's all over. I'm sure the religion threads will surface again soon, even though there are some recent ones posted.

http://prince.org/msg/15/286132
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Reply #23 posted 10/01/08 4:09pm

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vntalove said:

Morningsong.....

I hadnt thought about that when I made that comment. I just came to this forum to see what views were out there and see how receptive people are/were to that sort of discussion.
I do follow (loosley) a formal religion, but I am also interested in other religions, because there most likely is truth in most of them. and as far as spiritualty is concerned, I belive it is the basis for all these "formal religions". It's just that today people dont seem to want to learn more about whats really going on inside of us all, and focus on the outside effects constantly.

but I'm not really enthused about seeing any religious post, comments and such here anymore. I looked, and I put my question out there, and I got my answer(s). I'm not that deep and the question I asked isnt either. but thanks for the time.


vntalove there are a few of us that really enjoy getting into discussions about God, spirituality, and Truth. With the elections coming up however, the focus in the forum does seem to be more about politics. It seems to come and go in cycles. Stick around, more spiritual topics will come up again.

And if you are interested in going deep, our very own esa does a radio show on Thursday nights called Ancient Wisdom meets New Power Soul on www.emancipationradio.com . The show starts at 9pm EST. He has recently been playing different lectures by Alan Watts at 6pm EST, and will play music from 7pm EST to 9pm EST. But AWmNPS can get very deep. At this time he is discussing The Bhagavad Gita: God Talks with Arjuna by Paramahansa Yogananda. Paramahansa has a way of bringing The Bhagavad Gita and the Holy Bible together in a way that makes perfect sense. It's an excellent show and I highly recommend it for anyone who wants to "check their true self". (And I most definitely highly recommend the book by Paramahansa Yogananda as well.) Esa has a way of explaining God Talks with Arjuna in a way that makes it very easy to understand, even without having the text before you.

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Reply #24 posted 10/01/08 4:11pm

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2elijah said:

Hey it's election time in the U.S. and we just have a few weeks left before it's all over. I'm sure the religion threads will surface again soon, even though there are some recent ones posted.



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Reply #25 posted 10/01/08 4:14pm

vntalove

benni said:

vntalove said:

Morningsong.....

I hadnt thought about that when I made that comment. I just came to this forum to see what views were out there and see how receptive people are/were to that sort of discussion.
I do follow (loosley) a formal religion, but I am also interested in other religions, because there most likely is truth in most of them. and as far as spiritualty is concerned, I belive it is the basis for all these "formal religions". It's just that today people dont seem to want to learn more about whats really going on inside of us all, and focus on the outside effects constantly.

but I'm not really enthused about seeing any religious post, comments and such here anymore. I looked, and I put my question out there, and I got my answer(s). I'm not that deep and the question I asked isnt either. but thanks for the time.


vntalove there are a few of us that really enjoy getting into discussions about God, spirituality, and Truth. With the elections coming up however, the focus in the forum does seem to be more about politics. It seems to come and go in cycles. Stick around, more spiritual topics will come up again.

And if you are interested in going deep, our very own esa does a radio show on Thursday nights called Ancient Wisdom meets New Power Soul on www.emancipationradio.com . The show starts at 9pm EST. He has recently been playing different lectures by Alan Watts at 6pm EST, and will play music from 7pm EST to 9pm EST. But AWmNPS can get very deep. At this time he is discussing The Bhagavad Gita: God Talks with Arjuna by Paramahansa Yogananda. Paramahansa has a way of bringing The Bhagavad Gita and the Holy Bible together in a way that makes perfect sense. It's an excellent show and I highly recommend it for anyone who wants to "check their true self". (And I most definitely highly recommend the book by Paramahansa Yogananda as well.) Esa has a way of explaining God Talks with Arjuna in a way that makes it very easy to understand, even without having the text before you.


thank you.....sorry that I questioned the obvious (cant stress enough that it was just a question? but I do see that people can focus on something other than the obvious from time to time. thanks for the info!

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Reply #26 posted 10/01/08 4:27pm

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vntalove said:

Morningsong.....

I hadnt thought about that when I made that comment. I just came to this forum to see what views were out there and see how receptive people are/were to that sort of discussion.
I do follow (loosley) a formal religion, but I am also interested in other religions, because there most likely is truth in most of them. and as far as spiritualty is concerned, I belive it is the basis for all these "formal religions". It's just that today people dont seem to want to learn more about whats really going on inside of us all, and focus on the outside effects constantly.

but I'm not really enthused about seeing any religious post, comments and such here anymore. I looked, and I put my question out there, and I got my answer(s). I'm not that deep and the question I asked isnt either. but thanks for the time.


That's cool. There are all types here. It can cause quite a bit of conflict many times. Many have been here a longtime and have expressed religious views on a multitude of levels, and as it's already been said it comes in cycles. Some have just ran in and ran out, and it's really hard to tell where some are coming from. I'd say feel free to express yourself within the forum limits of course.

Sorry we didn't meet up to your standards.

didn't read that last paragraph edit.
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Reply #27 posted 10/01/08 4:35pm

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vntalove said:

benni said:



vntalove there are a few of us that really enjoy getting into discussions about God, spirituality, and Truth. With the elections coming up however, the focus in the forum does seem to be more about politics. It seems to come and go in cycles. Stick around, more spiritual topics will come up again.

And if you are interested in going deep, our very own esa does a radio show on Thursday nights called Ancient Wisdom meets New Power Soul on www.emancipationradio.com . The show starts at 9pm EST. He has recently been playing different lectures by Alan Watts at 6pm EST, and will play music from 7pm EST to 9pm EST. But AWmNPS can get very deep. At this time he is discussing The Bhagavad Gita: God Talks with Arjuna by Paramahansa Yogananda. Paramahansa has a way of bringing The Bhagavad Gita and the Holy Bible together in a way that makes perfect sense. It's an excellent show and I highly recommend it for anyone who wants to "check their true self". (And I most definitely highly recommend the book by Paramahansa Yogananda as well.) Esa has a way of explaining God Talks with Arjuna in a way that makes it very easy to understand, even without having the text before you.


thank you.....sorry that I questioned the obvious (cant stress enough that it was just a question? but I do see that people can focus on something other than the obvious from time to time. thanks for the info!



No need to apologize at all! (Believe me I will be glad when this election is over with! lol ) Also, there are quite a few threads that I wouldn't mind seeing resurrected. wink

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Reply #28 posted 10/03/08 12:03am

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vntalove said:

I do follow (loosley) a formal religion, but I am also interested in other religions,

what religion do you follow?

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Reply #29 posted 10/06/08 6:12pm

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Flowers2 said:

arrow nod yes

but you won't get too many 'yes' cause alot will reject what you are saying.... doesn't matter, cause God is still lifting His hand from the economy....and this is only the beginning...




well .. as I said last week ... God is lifting His Hand from the economy because He is tired of human beings and their corruptions ... this is only the beginning...

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