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Vatican Official Attacks U.S. Democrats as "Party of Death". October 1st, 2008
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Out of respect for Eric, Namepeace and Andrea, I will refrain from cursing on this thread. But honestly, the Catholic church shuffled priests who molested kids instead of turning them over to the police so I give less than two pumps and a stroke what they think about US Democrats. | |
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Stymie said: Out of respect for Eric, Namepeace and Andrea, I will refrain from cursing on this thread. But honestly, the Catholic church shuffled priests who molested kids instead of turning them over to the police so I give less than two pumps and a stroke what they think about US Democrats.
i don't understand. aside from Abortion and Gay Rights the Church is more alligned with the Democratic party. | |
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ehuffnsd said: Stymie said: Out of respect for Eric, Namepeace and Andrea, I will refrain from cursing on this thread. But honestly, the Catholic church shuffled priests who molested kids instead of turning them over to the police so I give less than two pumps and a stroke what they think about US Democrats.
i don't understand. aside from Abortion and Gay Rights the Church is more alligned with the Democratic party. And yet they implicitly condone the party that revels in the bloodbaths of elective wars. I stay Woke.
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Burke made headlines as archbishop of St. Louis for his public attacks on public figures who strayed from Catholic teaching. He suggested during the 2004 presidential campaign that Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry, a Catholic, should be denied communion because of his views on abortion. Several bishops said at the time they would not give him communion and the media staked out churches where he attended Mass to see if he received it.
“Lately, I’ve noticed that other bishops are coming to this position,” Burke told Avvenire, which is owned by the Italian bishops’ conference. Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, now Pope Benedict XVI, wrote a letter in 2004 to American bishops restating the Church position that a priest must refuse to distribute communion to a Catholic politician who supported abortion rights. But Burke lamented that the letter was never distributed. This is religious blackmail. I stay Woke.
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Stymie said: Out of respect for Eric, Namepeace and Andrea, I will refrain from cursing on this thread. But honestly, the Catholic church shuffled priests who molested kids instead of turning them over to the police so I give less than two pumps and a stroke what they think about US Democrats.
Well the church was more interested in the public face they presented and did not want to risque the coffers going dry. They did this for decades, destroying many people's lives. They have no right to stand in moral outrage of ANYONE. I stay Woke.
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: ehuffnsd said: i don't understand. aside from Abortion and Gay Rights the Church is more alligned with the Democratic party. And yet they implicitly condone the party that revels in the bloodbaths of elective wars. it's the problem when you put one issue as the piroity. however most Catholics i know are long term democratic voters. JohnPaul II stacked the Curia and College of Cardnials with a bunch of ultraconservative nutcases in his 25 years as Pope. we have to wait a good 5-10 before a little more liberalism is back in the Curia. | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Burke made headlines as archbishop of St. Louis for his public attacks on public figures who strayed from Catholic teaching. He suggested during the 2004 presidential campaign that Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry, a Catholic, should be denied communion because of his views on abortion. Several bishops said at the time they would not give him communion and the media staked out churches where he attended Mass to see if he received it.
“Lately, I’ve noticed that other bishops are coming to this position,” Burke told Avvenire, which is owned by the Italian bishops’ conference. Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, now Pope Benedict XVI, wrote a letter in 2004 to American bishops restating the Church position that a priest must refuse to distribute communion to a Catholic politician who supported abortion rights. But Burke lamented that the letter was never distributed. This is religious blackmail. what the vatican says and what happens are different. there are nuns in Africa give out condoms. | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Stymie said: Out of respect for Eric, Namepeace and Andrea, I will refrain from cursing on this thread. But honestly, the Catholic church shuffled priests who molested kids instead of turning them over to the police so I give less than two pumps and a stroke what they think about US Democrats.
Well the church was more interested in the public face they presented and did not want to risque the coffers going dry. They did this for decades, destroying many people's lives. They have no right to stand in moral outrage of ANYONE. a few yes. the whole no. | |
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ehuffnsd said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: And yet they implicitly condone the party that revels in the bloodbaths of elective wars. it's the problem when you put one issue as the piroity. however most Catholics i know are long term democratic voters. JohnPaul II stacked the Curia and College of Cardnials with a bunch of ultraconservative nutcases in his 25 years as Pope. we have to wait a good 5-10 before a little more liberalism is back in the Curia. I know of no Catholics that vote Republican. My 85 year old Catholic grandmother didn't vote for Bush & she's not voting for McCain. I wish Catholic parishoners would take their faith back and stop allowing the church to dictate anything to them on how they are to believe. I stay Woke.
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Stymie said: Out of respect for Eric, Namepeace and Andrea, I will refrain from cursing on this thread. But honestly, the Catholic church shuffled priests who molested kids instead of turning them over to the police so I give less than two pumps and a stroke what they think about US Democrats.
Well the church was more interested in the public face they presented and did not want to risque the coffers going dry. They did this for decades, destroying many people's lives. They have no right to stand in moral outrage of ANYONE. | |
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ehuffnsd said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Well the church was more interested in the public face they presented and did not want to risque the coffers going dry. They did this for decades, destroying many people's lives. They have no right to stand in moral outrage of ANYONE. a few yes. the whole no. The powerful few, the ones calling the shots, the ones who are at the top. I believe most Catholics are very decent people. The heirarchy of the church I think is full of *)*##*%+@. I stay Woke.
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: ehuffnsd said: a few yes. the whole no. The powerful few, the ones calling the shots, the ones who are at the top. I believe most Catholics are very decent people. The heirarchy of the church I think is full of *)*##*%+@. a few yes the whole no. | |
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ehuffnsd said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: The powerful few, the ones calling the shots, the ones who are at the top. I believe most Catholics are very decent people. The heirarchy of the church I think is full of *)*##*%+@. a few yes the whole no. Well it's the few who are dictating policy and which people listen to and who pull stunts like trying to deny communion to elected leaders who's job is not to mandate their own beliefs on the public. I stay Woke.
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Stymie said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Well the church was more interested in the public face they presented and did not want to risque the coffers going dry. They did this for decades, destroying many people's lives. They have no right to stand in moral outrage of ANYONE. there is probably just as much child abuse in other religions as the Church, however the Church got caught and because of priestly celibacy and a very strong AntiCatholic undertone that has always exisited in America it became a big deal. | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: ehuffnsd said: a few yes the whole no. Well it's the few who are dictating policy and which people listen to and who pull stunts like trying to deny communion to elected leaders who's job is not to mandate their own beliefs on the public. techincally the Most Holy Redeemer in SF should be shut down or the Pastor reasigned because of it's acceptance of gays. however the Archdiosese of SF turns a blind eye including the Archbishop. the former Archbishop is now a high ranking vatican offical. i should have been denied communion at my grandmothers funeral because the priest knew i was a praciticing homosexual but he gave it to me anyway. [Edited 10/3/08 14:33pm] | |
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ehuffnsd said: Stymie said: You have to see Religulous if for nothing more than what they say about the Catholic church.
there is probably just as much child abuse in other religions as the Church, however the Church got caught and because of priestly celibacy and a very strong AntiCatholic undertone that has always exisited in America it became a big deal. People are faith are hypocrites. I am a hypocrite but my hypocrisy does not involve ruining the lives of others, covering it up and then not speaking out against it. Many threads are started about Catholics in this forum and yet most of you remain silent on them. Wrong is wrong. | |
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ehuffnsd said: Stymie said: You have to see Religulous if for nothing more than what they say about the Catholic church.
there is probably just as much child abuse in other religions as the Church,... and the public schools, getting funded up the wazoo with taxpayer dollars. Welcome to the New World Odor and
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HiinEnkelte said: ehuffnsd said: there is probably just as much child abuse in other religions as the Church,... and the public schools, getting funded up the wazoo with taxpayer dollars. | |
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Stymie said: ehuffnsd said: there is probably just as much child abuse in other religions as the Church, however the Church got caught and because of priestly celibacy and a very strong AntiCatholic undertone that has always exisited in America it became a big deal. People are faith are hypocrites. I am a hypocrite but my hypocrisy does not involve ruining the lives of others, covering it up and then not speaking out against it. Many threads are started about Catholics in this forum and yet most of you remain silent on them. Wrong is wrong. i don't disagree with you Ivy. | |
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ehuffnsd said: Stymie said: I know there is child molestation across the board, Eric. a strong anti-Catholic undertone is no excuse. Do you think that undertone may be because of the child abuse going on? Do any other faiths have a history of sending people off to other parishes for crimes? No, they don't.
People are faith are hypocrites. I am a hypocrite but my hypocrisy does not involve ruining the lives of others, covering it up and then not speaking out against it. Many threads are started about Catholics in this forum and yet most of you remain silent on them. Wrong is wrong. i don't disagree with you Ivy. None of the catholics on this board, including you, should take any of our criticism to heart. We do not attack you or your faith. Just the wretched hypocritcal leaders at the top. I stay Woke.
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ehuffnsd said: Stymie said: I know there is child molestation across the board, Eric. a strong anti-Catholic undertone is no excuse. Do you think that undertone may be because of the child abuse going on? Do any other faiths have a history of sending people off to other parishes for crimes? No, they don't.
People are faith are hypocrites. I am a hypocrite but my hypocrisy does not involve ruining the lives of others, covering it up and then not speaking out against it. Many threads are started about Catholics in this forum and yet most of you remain silent on them. Wrong is wrong. i don't disagree with you Ivy. I am sorry Eric, I am very passionate about my disdain for the catholic church. | |
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This is just par for the course.
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Stymie said: ehuffnsd said: i don't disagree with you Ivy. I am sorry Eric, I am very passionate about my disdain for the catholic church. no harm no foul my dear :dear: | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: ehuffnsd said: i don't disagree with you Ivy. None of the catholics on this board, including you, should take any of our criticism to heart. We do not attack you or your faith. Just the wretched hypocritcal leaders at the top. | |
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Stymie said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: None of the catholics on this board, including you, should take any of our criticism to heart. We do not attack you or your faith. Just the wretched hypocritcal leaders at the top. i'm not Catholic in faith. | |
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ehuffnsd said: Stymie said: I do not wish to make it personal but I will never for the life of me understand Catholic people as a whole on this stuff. Never as long as I have breath in my body.
i'm not Catholic in faith. in tradition? I stay Woke.
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ehuffnsd said: Stymie said: I do not wish to make it personal but I will never for the life of me understand Catholic people as a whole on this stuff. Never as long as I have breath in my body.
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