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O.J. Simpson Guilty on all Charges!

The jury has reached a verdict in O.J. Simpson's armed robbery and kidnapping trial in Las Vegas, Nevada, a defense lawyer and a court official said Friday.


The jury reached the verdict 13 years to the day O.J. Simpson was acquitted of two murders.

Simpson arrived at the Clark County Justice Center at around 10:50 p.m. (1:50 a.m. Saturday ET). The verdicts were expected to be read once all of the lawyers and defendants arrived in the courtroom.

The jury of nine men and three women, none of them African-American, began deliberations Friday after hearing from 22 witnesses over 12 days of testimony. Chief among the witnesses were seven of the nine people inside Room 1203 of the Palace Station Hotel and Casino for the September 13, 2007 confrontation.

The evidence included testimony from the two dealers, four co-defendants who cut plea deals and cooperated with prosecutors and hours of often-profane, crackling, secretly recorded audiotapes.

Prosecutors alleged that the men, led by Simpson, burst into the room, flashed a gun and threatened memorabilia dealers Bruce Fromong and Al Beardsley.

The men then filled two pillowcases with Simpson trinkets, signed Pete Rose baseballs and Joe Montana lithographs. Simpson's defense attorneys maintained their client was merely trying to retrieve personal photographs and other mementos that belonged to him.

Neither Simpson nor his co-defendant Clarence "C.J." Stewart testified during the trial. Instead, their attorneys savaged the motives of the other witnesses.

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Simpson's lawyer, Yale Galanter, said Simpson was a target of investigators from the very beginning. The case "has taken on a life of its own because of Mr. Simpson's involvement," he added.

"Every cooperator, every person who had a gun, every person who had an ulterior motive, every person who signed a book deal, every person who got paid money, the police, the district attorney's office is only interested in one thing: Mr. Simpson," Galanter said.

Stewart was characterized by his lawyer, E. Brent Bryson, as the trial's forgotten player.

The most compelling evidence for all sides came from the audiotapes.

For the prosecution, conversations taped by collectibles middleman Thomas Riccio took jurors from the poolside planning to the profanity-laced hotel room confrontation.

Riccio, a chatty sports memorabilia dealer and convicted felon made the rounds on network news shows immediately after the hotel room fracas. He admitted on the stand that various media outlets paid him $210,000.

The crucial evidence for the defense came from two audiotapes, a voicemail from a key prosecution witness who seemed willing to tailor his testimony for a price and tapes of Las Vegas police officers laughing and joking about Simpson's Los Angeles acquittal following his arrest.

Galanter told jurors the surreptitious recording captured police investigators in the hotel room after the confrontation. "They're making jokes. They're saying things like, 'We're gonna get him,"' he said.

Police were called to the hotel around 8 p.m. on September 13, 2007. Shortly after midnight, detectives visited Simpson at his hotel. He told them he was just trying to recover property that had been stolen from him.

"Why are they not in trouble?" Simpson asked about memorabilia dealers Beardsley and Fromong, according to police reports filed in the case. Both men testified for the prosecution, although Beardsley said Simpson did nothing wrong and was "set up" by the "rat Riccio."

Riccio, who was not charged in the case, testified that he didn't think twice about recording Simpson when asked for help retrieving what Simpson claimed was his property.

All four of the former co-defendants testified for the prosecution. Two of them tied Simpson to guns and threats.

Michael McClinton testified that Simpson instructed him to bring a gun and "look menacing" before they entered the hotel room.

Simpson has told police he had no idea the people with him were armed.

The testimony was laced with innuendo about unsavory activities by several of the witnesses, many with criminal records. Riccio and Beardsley feuded openly, calling each other names and questioning each other's sanity.

Aware that loose cannons on the stand could blow the case into mistrial purgatory, Judge Jackie Glass refused to let David Cook testify. Cook, an attorney for the family of Ronald Goldman, searches for Simpson assets to satisfy the $33.5 million civil judgment against the former NFL star.

Simpson was acquitted of killing his ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, and Goldman in a trial that ended 13 years to the day before the Las Vegas jury began its deliberations.

Regarding Glass' ruling, Cook told CNN: "If you read between the lines, I think she thought my appearance would bring up the Ghost of Christmas Past."

The case featured 19 male witnesses and just three cameo appearances from women. Swagger and testosterone ran rampant with hard stares from the witness stand.


As testimony neared its end, Glass, a former television news reporter, vented her frustration with the quibbling lawyers.

"I'm trying to get this trial back on track," she snapped. "I am surprised you haven't seen my head spin and fire come out of my mouth at this point in this trial."


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Reply #1 posted 10/03/08 11:06pm

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That's too long to read. lol Is he going to jail?

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KidaDynamite said:

That's too long to read. lol Is he going to jail?



Not yet, but they've found guilty.

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Reply #3 posted 10/03/08 11:15pm

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NoChances said:

KidaDynamite said:

That's too long to read. lol Is he going to jail?



Not yet, but they've found guilty.


disbelief O.J. you just couldn't stop until they throw your ass in jail, name you Oranjina and have you bending over for packs of cigs, huh?!

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He should've notified hotel security or the police with regard to the alledged stolen property, instead of taking matters into his own hands. He beat a double murder rap and then elected to gamble with his freedom (ironically in Vegas).

I think he's facing a maximum of 25-to-life.

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Copycat said:

He should've notified hotel security or the police with regard to the alledged stolen property, instead of taking matters into his own hands. He beat a double murder rap and then elected to gamble with his freedom (ironically in Vegas).

I think he's facing a maximum of 25-to-life.


15- to life. and yes i agree with you, he's too much of a blowhard.

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I don't mean to start a racial thing...but something about this jury and trial bugs me. I don't think he had a fair jury...not even one african american on this jury. Not that his jury couldn't "be" fair - but I don't know..I watched the
verdict being read live on CNN minutes ago..and I saw OJ nodding his head
after the second "Guilty" under his name was read - and he just had this look
like, "Well that figures..." And I agreed with him.

I think he should get an appeal and part of me thinks, while what he MAY
have done, IF he did it was bad, he didn't deserve this. I understand
the people that say, "Payback for getting off in 94" but that isn't
what this was about.

I'm kind of surprised (but not really) and I'm not trying to argue that
OJ is a saint, or totally innocent...but something about this stinks to me.

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Vanilli said:

I don't mean to start a racial thing...but something about this jury and trial bugs me. I don't think he had a fair jury...not even one african american on this jury. Not that his jury couldn't "be" fair - but I don't know..I watched the
verdict being read live on CNN minutes ago..and I saw OJ nodding his head
after the second "Guilty" under his name was read - and he just had this look
like, "Well that figures..." And I agreed with him.

I think he should get an appeal and part of me thinks, while what he MAY
have done, IF he did it was bad, he didn't deserve this. I understand
the people that say, "Payback for getting off in 94" but that isn't
what this was about.

I'm kind of surprised (but not really) and I'm not trying to argue that
OJ is a saint, or totally innocent...but something about this stinks to me.


Well, I think we ALL knew it was gonna be a "make-up call" for 95. How "ironic" (planned) that the verdict came 13 years to the day he was acquitted.

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MuthaFunka said:[quote]

Vanilli said:



Well, I think we ALL knew it was gonna be a "make-up call" for 95. How "ironic" (planned) that the verdict came 13 years to the day he was acquitted.

Yep...I too thought that was HIGHLY coincidental. Too coincidental to be a coincidence. But seriously, there was NO way in hell O.J was going to walk on this. When the news first broke some months back that O.J. got busted and they had footage of O.J. actually running his mouth in the hotel room, I was like "Well, there it is." O.J. of all people should have known better than to do some stupid shit like that. He should have known that if he got caught jaywalking, it was ON. When he wrote that book, it was REALLY on after that. It was just going to be a matter of time before he got caught slippin'. Over some shit that O.J. could have handled differently. But O.J. had to be all up in it and it was Candid Camera x 10 in that hotel room.

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blackguitaristz said:[quote]

MuthaFunka said:

Vanilli said:



Well, I think we ALL knew it was gonna be a "make-up call" for 95. How "ironic" (planned) that the verdict came 13 years to the day he was acquitted.

Yep...I too thought that was HIGHLY coincidental. Too coincidental to be a coincidence. But seriously, there was NO way in hell O.J was going to walk on this. When the news first broke some months back that O.J. got busted and they had footage of O.J. actually running his mouth in the hotel room, I was like "Well, there it is." O.J. of all people should have known better than to do some stupid shit like that. He should have known that if he got caught jaywalking, it was ON. When he wrote that book, it was REALLY on after that. It was just going to be a matter of time before he got caught slippin'. Over some shit that O.J. could have handled differently. But O.J. had to be all up in it and it was Candid Camera x 10 in that hotel room.


Holding someone who you are robbing at gunpoint is far from "slippin". Twist it all ya want the cat was stupid and guilty.
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Anyone here read his book? I'd be interested to know what
someone who read it thinks of his current predicament.

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lazycrockett said:

blackguitaristz said:


Yep...I too thought that was HIGHLY coincidental. Too coincidental to be a coincidence. But seriously, there was NO way in hell O.J was going to walk on this. When the news first broke some months back that O.J. got busted and they had footage of O.J. actually running his mouth in the hotel room, I was like "Well, there it is." O.J. of all people should have known better than to do some stupid shit like that. He should have known that if he got caught jaywalking, it was ON. When he wrote that book, it was REALLY on after that. It was just going to be a matter of time before he got caught slippin'. Over some shit that O.J. could have handled differently. But O.J. had to be all up in it and it was Candid Camera x 10 in that hotel room.


Holding someone who you are robbing at gunpoint is far from "slippin". Twist it all ya want the cat was stupid and guilty.
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Hold on to your hat cowboy...I for one am not "twisting" shit nor did I come off like I was. "Caught slippin" is slang for "doing some dumb shit" which I stated a few times in my post. Him having his ass on camera, (like I also stated) is obvious the man was guilty. So I don't know what u were reading...
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i know OJ feel stupid getting away with murder and then going to jail for taking some footballs

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Odd that he felt the need to use a gun to take his own stuff back.

Not the brightest bulb.

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The man's a tool. smile

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Reply #16 posted 10/04/08 6:18am

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I never had a doubt that he would be found guilty but I feel he is being found guilty on the murder charge and not this. But karma has a way of coming around to kick you in the ass so I don't feel bad in the least for him on this.

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Stymie said:

I never had a doubt that he would be found guilty but I feel he is being found guilty on the murder charge and not this. But karma has a way of coming around to kick you in the ass so I don't feel bad in the least for him on this.


Well exactly. It'd be hard to feel bad for him about anything at this point. I'd say he should've been way smarter considering everything, but I'm not entirely sure I'd want for anything other than what has happened.

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Stymie said:

I never had a doubt that he would be found guilty but I feel he is being found guilty on the murder charge and not this. But karma has a way of coming around to kick you in the ass so I don't feel bad in the least for him on this.

pretty much

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Karma has a way of coming back around....

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Stymie said:

I never had a doubt that he would be found guilty but I feel he is being found guilty on the murder charge and not this. But karma has a way of coming around to kick you in the ass so I don't feel bad in the least for him on this.



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i know OJ feel stupid getting away with murder and then going to jail for taking some footballs



lol lol that's what i thought

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blackguitaristz said:[quote]

MuthaFunka said:

Vanilli said:



Well, I think we ALL knew it was gonna be a "make-up call" for 95. How "ironic" (planned) that the verdict came 13 years to the day he was acquitted.

Yep...I too thought that was HIGHLY coincidental. Too coincidental to be a coincidence. But seriously, there was NO way in hell O.J was going to walk on this. When the news first broke some months back that O.J. got busted and they had footage of O.J. actually running his mouth in the hotel room, I was like "Well, there it is." O.J. of all people should have known better than to do some stupid shit like that. He should have known that if he got caught jaywalking, it was ON. When he wrote that book, it was REALLY on after that. It was just going to be a matter of time before he got caught slippin'. Over some shit that O.J. could have handled differently. But O.J. had to be all up in it and it was Candid Camera x 10 in that hotel room.



And the thing is that Hotel Security is more compitent than the LAPD, and they were not going to do this wrong. I mean the LAPD had him with BLOOD ON HIS SOCKS and lost the case. The problem is that OJ has been and always will be an ego maniac, it showed in his marriage, his constant run ins with people and his wife. He beat the rap but couldnt let it lay, he had to brag and write a fucking book to make some money, OJ is just plain DUMB. I mean you dont see Robert Blake parading around with a shirt that says "this is how i shot the bitch", no because he knows hes a lucky bastard and he was guilty and he knows it, so he shuts up and lives whatever is left of his life. OJ had to be the dumb fuck that he is and always was, and running around town like he was still on the football field. Well KARMA is a bitch Juice!


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Yep...I too thought that was HIGHLY coincidental. Too coincidental to be a coincidence. But seriously, there was NO way in hell O.J was going to walk on this. When the news first broke some months back that O.J. got busted and they had footage of O.J. actually running his mouth in the hotel room, I was like "Well, there it is." O.J. of all people should have known better than to do some stupid shit like that. He should have known that if he got caught jaywalking, it was ON. When he wrote that book, it was REALLY on after that. It was just going to be a matter of time before he got caught slippin'. Over some shit that O.J. could have handled differently. But O.J. had to be all up in it and it was Candid Camera x 10 in that hotel room.



And the thing is that Hotel Security is more compitent than the LAPD, and they were not going to do this wrong. I mean the LAPD had him with BLOOD ON HIS SOCKS and lost the case. The problem is that OJ has been and always will be an ego maniac, it showed in his marriage, his constant run ins with people and his wife. He beat the rap but couldnt let it lay, he had to brag and write a fucking book to make some money, OJ is just plain DUMB. I mean you dont see Robert Blake parading around with a shirt that says "this is how i shot the bitch", no because he knows hes a lucky bastard and he was guilty and he knows it, so he shuts up and lives whatever is left of his life. OJ had to be the dumb fuck that he is and always was, and running around town like he was still on the football field. Well KARMA is a bitch Juice!



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blackguitaristz said:[quote]

MuthaFunka said:

Vanilli said:



Well, I think we ALL knew it was gonna be a "make-up call" for 95. How "ironic" (planned) that the verdict came 13 years to the day he was acquitted.

Yep...I too thought that was HIGHLY coincidental. Too coincidental to be a coincidence. But seriously, there was NO way in hell O.J was going to walk on this. When the news first broke some months back that O.J. got busted and they had footage of O.J. actually running his mouth in the hotel room, I was like "Well, there it is." O.J. of all people should have known better than to do some stupid shit like that. He should have known that if he got caught jaywalking, it was ON. When he wrote that book, it was REALLY on after that. It was just going to be a matter of time before he got caught slippin'. Over some shit that O.J. could have handled differently. But O.J. had to be all up in it and it was Candid Camera x 10 in that hotel room.


Yep. His dumb ass thought he was the NEW "Teflon Don". He thought he was untouchable since he beat a murder wrap.

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i think the entire thing is sad. its sad to me because one day he was somebodies new born baby, that mother had great hopes for. he climbed his way into a successful life - made quite a name for himself. i remember as a child my dad talking about how great he was on the field....


i was pregnant with Jacob, standing in a parking lot in st. louis when the news came of the car chase, we went into a nearby laundry mat to watch it on tv. i was caring for my young son when he was let off on the murder case. i am now the mother of a 13 year old son who plays football and just last thursday was moved to first string on both defense and offense (thank you very much!). i cant help but to think we dont know how life will turn out for anyone in the beginning, we pray for the best and teach what we can... in the end its up to each man to decide right from wrong and what they want their name to be remembered for.


to make it that far, and turn out like this... it just sickens me.

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nakedpianoplayer said:

i think the entire thing is sad. its sad to me because one day he was somebodies new born baby, that mother had great hopes for. he climbed his way into a successful life - made quite a name for himself. i remember as a child my dad talking about how great he was on the field....


i was pregnant with Jacob, standing in a parking lot in st. louis when the news came of the car chase, we went into a nearby laundry mat to watch it on tv. i was caring for my young son when he was let off on the murder case. i am now the mother of a 13 year old son who plays football and just last thursday was moved to first string on both defense and offense (thank you very much!). i cant help but to think we dont know how life will turn out for anyone in the beginning, we pray for the best and teach what we can... in the end its up to each man to decide right from wrong and what they want their name to be remembered for.


to make it that far, and turn out like this... it
just sickens me.


I think as I read your post...it struck a strong chord with me, because
you summed up what I couldn't find the words to say. However, your post
offers some hope..because yes SOME people will make shitty choices along
the way and it is sickening to think about all they accomplished, their
legacy and then watching it be thrown away, but, on the other hand, when
you read about your 13 year old who was moved to first string, it offers
hope that a child being raised by a parent with love, will turn out alright
- and in the end - in this amazing and crazy world, that is all we can really hope for. rainbo

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So much for an impartial jury of your peers. confused

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SCNDLS said:

So much for an impartial jury of your peers. confused


Oh, you KNEW he was gonna get an all white jury JUUUUST to make sure! lol

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