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Reply #90 posted 02/21/06 6:04am

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wasitgood4u said:

art said:


Tap :
No how. Only surprise, this title bell not really on the whole of the disk.

Black Sweat :
No how. But with the two first, we are in a resonant consistency, that makes that the album is not definitely a new "Dawdles"


lol
Ok. I'm not a major francophone but I did understand most of the review and any reader here should have been able to find how absurd these two translations are!
When Ralph wrote "No comment" for each of these trax, he was talking English!!!! ("comment" in French means "how"). How did "TAC" get translated to "Tap" (maybe "tac" means something in French)? "Rave" was not meant to be translated either (and if so definitely not as "dawdles", although that reflects what the album sounded like to me!).
The TAC line should probably read something like: The only surprise is that this title doesn't really resonate within the whole of the disk.


Raphy said in his article that suprisingly TAC fits very well in the album cuz it thought it would not be the case before listening to 3121.
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Reply #91 posted 02/21/06 6:08am

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BeautifulFrance said:

wasitgood4u said:


lol
Ok. I'm not a major francophone but I did understand most of the review and any reader here should have been able to find how absurd these two translations are!
When Ralph wrote "No comment" for each of these trax, he was talking English!!!! ("comment" in French means "how"). How did "TAC" get translated to "Tap" (maybe "tac" means something in French)? "Rave" was not meant to be translated either (and if so definitely not as "dawdles", although that reflects what the album sounded like to me!).
The TAC line should probably read something like: The only surprise is that this title doesn't really resonate within the whole of the disk.


Raphy said in his article that suprisingly TAC fits very well in the album cuz it thought it would not be the case before listening to 3121.


Thanks - so does "ne cloche pas" means something like "does not clash"?
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Reply #92 posted 02/21/06 7:49am

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wasitgood4u said:

BeautifulFrance said:



Raphy said in his article that suprisingly TAC fits very well in the album cuz it thought it would not be the case before listening to 3121.


Thanks - so does "ne cloche pas" means something like "does not clash"?


Yes mate. In the sense that this tune fits perfectly in 3121 while Raphy was expecting the opposite. smile
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Reply #93 posted 02/21/06 8:01am

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Something interesting in Raphy's review of 3121 is the way he sums up his impressions after the listening session:
"I put everybody at rest, 3121 is a good record, nothing to be ashamed of, and far from TAC.
Is it better than Musicology ? Yes, I think so (for those who are obsessed with comparisons)
Is it a shock like Prince's best past records when he revolutionized music ? No.
Is it a Rave number 2 ? No.
Is it a good record to have fun on the dancefloor for our party scheduled on the 19th of march (if we get 3121 in time) ? yes yes and YES"

That's what I'm expecting for this album rather than jumping to conclusions like "it is his best stuff since Lovesexy".
A good fun album a lot more consistent, coherent and with a far better production than on Musicology and Rave. That's what seems to be logical to expect after having read the first reviews.

On a different note, I have read another french review and the guy was basically saying 3121 wad going from Prince at his best to Prince at his worst. Lolita is a terrible tune according to him (it is the 3d person I have read reviews from who says that now).
[Edited 2/21/06 8:06am]
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Reply #94 posted 02/21/06 8:12am

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Do you have any links to more reviews?
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Reply #95 posted 02/21/06 8:24am

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Reply #96 posted 02/21/06 8:25am

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calldapplwondery83 said:

Do you have any links to more reviews?


http://www.schkopi.com/forum/

There are 3 of them (in french only) there in the section 3121 and then at the top spoilers link.
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Reply #97 posted 02/21/06 8:30am

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Thanks!

I will now try to get back 5-6 years and remember SOME French from school!
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Reply #98 posted 02/21/06 8:49am

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Could you summarize what the poster "doinel" wrote in his/her review? Unfortunately, my French is limited to "Je m'apelle ...", "Je suis fatigué" and "Avez vous un crayon?" at the moment. And the Babelfish translation isn't good for anything than a good laugh, either.
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Reply #99 posted 02/21/06 9:23am

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calldapplwondery83 said:

Could you summarize what the poster "doinel" wrote in his/her review? Unfortunately, my French is limited to "Je m'apelle ...", "Je suis fatigué" and "Avez vous un crayon?" at the moment. And the Babelfish translation isn't good for anything than a good laugh, either.


According to him, the album starts and finishes extremely well with two extraordinary tunes. He thinks the 3121 track is amazing and that get on the Boat is incredibly funky.
But he thinks that there are a few awful tracks on 3121 as well, Lolita being one of them. He thinks Prince is trying a bit too much to please people who like Dance music and R&B on this album.
In fact he has mixed feelings about the album. He goes from one extreme to another.
But like all the other reviewers, he agrees this album is a lot more challenging musically than Musicology.

This reviewer is not as precise as others have been. Moreover he is acting like a moron, a real show off. You know some guy who "has seen it all". He writes like a journalist from the NME. So even if you were fluent in french you would hardly understand. lol

Now this does not mean he is not right about the album...
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Reply #100 posted 02/21/06 9:25am

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BeautifulFrance said:

calldapplwondery83 said:

Could you summarize what the poster "doinel" wrote in his/her review? Unfortunately, my French is limited to "Je m'apelle ...", "Je suis fatigué" and "Avez vous un crayon?" at the moment. And the Babelfish translation isn't good for anything than a good laugh, either.


According to him, the album starts and finishes extremely well with two extraordinary tunes. He thinks the 3121 track is amazing and that get on the Boat is incredibly funky.
But he thinks that there are a few awful tracks on 3121 as well, Lolita being one of them. He thinks Prince is trying a bit too much to please people who like Dance music and R&B on this album.
In fact he has mixed feelings about the album. He goes from one extreme to another.
But oike all the other reviewers he agrees tis album is a lot more challenging musically than Musicology.

This reviewer is not as precise as others have been. Moreover he is acting like moron, a real show off. You know some guy who "has seen it all". He writes like a journalist from the NME. So even if you were fluent in french you would hardly understand. lol

Now this does not mean he is not right about the album...
[Edited 2/21/06 9:24am]


He is far from being right as Lolita is a fantastic funky tune with a great melody. Instant hit.
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Reply #101 posted 02/21/06 9:29am

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Papaj said:



He is far from being right as Lolita is a fantastic funky tune with a great melody. Instant hit.


I'm gonna wait and see but I really hope you're right. wink
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Reply #102 posted 02/21/06 9:40am

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BeautifulFrance said:

Papaj said:



He is far from being right as Lolita is a fantastic funky tune with a great melody. Instant hit.


I'm gonna wait and see but I really hope you're right. wink


You do not have to like everything Prince releases but 3121 is a musical tour de force to me smile I would love to listen to it again biggrin
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Reply #103 posted 02/21/06 10:35am

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Papaj said:

BeautifulFrance said:



I'm gonna wait and see but I really hope you're right. wink


You do not have to like everything Prince releases but 3121 is a musical tour de force to me smile I would love to listen to it again biggrin


Not too much time to wait now mate ! biggrin
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Reply #104 posted 02/21/06 10:42am

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BeautifulFrance said:



Not too much time to wait now mate ! biggrin


Now that's as debatable as the quality of NPS! wink


Thanks for the summary!
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Reply #105 posted 02/21/06 11:14am

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calldapplwondery83 said:

BeautifulFrance said:



Not too much time to wait now mate ! biggrin


Now that's as debatable as the quality of NPS! wink


Thanks for the summary!


You're welcome my friend ! biggrin
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Reply #106 posted 02/21/06 5:04pm

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burger or maybe it's the day he's going to change his name back to the Symbol. LOLOL. Sorry, had to throw that one in. razz
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Reply #107 posted 02/21/06 5:09pm

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I'm trying really hard not to get too excited based on some of the user reviews. I don't wanna be disappointed by a good album just because I was expecting it to be great after reading a bunch of rave reviews.
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Reply #108 posted 02/21/06 8:03pm

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I think just from listening to Fury and Black Sweat that 3121 is going to be a good album. I truly thought that the album was going to be a major disappointment because Te Amo Corazon wasn't really shocking me that much (although now I'm feeling it). There's just going to be lots of variety all over the record just from looking at the various interviews and reviews. I just preordered my copy today!
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Reply #109 posted 02/21/06 11:32pm

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This is how I'd rate the songs I've heard off of 3121:

Te Amo Corazon--Pleasant enough, but not particularly moving. 3/5

Black Sweat--Charming Prince pop song. Nice beat and not a half-bad chorus. Still, I feel like it's a little too short. 3.5/5

Beautiful, Loved & Blessed--I like its positive message, and the music in it is nice, but it fails to deliver anything really memorable. 3/5

Fury--Fun lyrics, fantastic guitar, and a great chorus. A great Prince rock song. 4.5/5
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Reply #110 posted 02/22/06 12:34am

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PurpleKnight said:

This is how I'd rate the songs I've heard off of 3121:

Te Amo Corazon--Pleasant enough, but not particularly moving. 3/5

Black Sweat--Charming Prince pop song. Nice beat and not a half-bad chorus. Still, I feel like it's a little too short. 3.5/5

Beautiful, Loved & Blessed--I like its positive message, and the music in it is nice, but it fails to deliver anything really memorable. 3/5

Fury--Fun lyrics, fantastic guitar, and a great chorus. A great Prince rock song. 4.5/5


I'd give TAC 3.5-4 - definitely better than the bland BLAB, BS, on the other hand is a definite 4-4.5 - the fact that it leaves you wanting more is part of what's so tantalizing!
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Reply #111 posted 02/22/06 3:01am

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PurpleKnight said:

This is how I'd rate the songs I've heard off of 3121:

Te Amo Corazon--Pleasant enough, but not particularly moving. 3/5

Black Sweat--Charming Prince pop song. Nice beat and not a half-bad chorus. Still, I feel like it's a little too short. 3.5/5

Beautiful, Loved & Blessed--I like its positive message, and the music in it is nice, but it fails to deliver anything really memorable. 3/5

Fury--Fun lyrics, fantastic guitar, and a great chorus. A great Prince rock song. 4.5/5



Spot on! thumbs up!

I guess I would give BLAB 3.5/5. If he had recorded it with live drums, it'd be 4/5. You know, unless you do something extraordinary with drum programming that cannot be done with live drums, just kick it real.
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Reply #112 posted 02/22/06 3:11am

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This album will be shit-hot, and you do know what an irreconcilable pessimist I am! It will be great, awesome, fantastic. Even Zelaira couldn't possibly describe its greatness.

THIS IS THE RECORD THAT WILL SWIPE THE FLOOR WITH SOTT.
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Reply #113 posted 02/22/06 3:14am

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Tell 'em! lol
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Reply #114 posted 02/22/06 12:45pm

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So far, Fury and Black Sweat are better than anything from Musicology.

TAC and B,L&B are on par with Musicology's "decent, but forgettable" level of quality.

So, I'm hoping Prince just picked a couple of bad singles, and that the rest of the album is more on the level of Black Sweat and Fury.

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Reply #115 posted 02/22/06 1:23pm

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PurpleKnight said:

So far, Fury and Black Sweat are better than anything from Musicology.

TAC and B,L&B are on par with Musicology's "decent, but forgettable" level of quality.

So, I'm hoping Prince just picked a couple of bad singles, and that the rest of the album is more on the level of Black Sweat and Fury.

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nod if TAC is the weakest track on the album I'll be very happy more than likely , I'm hoping the general quality of the music is on a par with Fury and BS and theyre not the best 2 tracks amongst a sea of mediocre music.
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Reply #116 posted 02/22/06 2:38pm

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I will be as excited for '3121,' as much as I was when "Sign 'O' The Times" came out on 12"...

ONLY when "Black Sweat" is released in the form of an extended version.

Until then, my ass is sittin' down till 3/21 (err, 3/17 lol )

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Reply #117 posted 02/22/06 4:12pm

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PurpleKnight said:

I'm trying really hard not to get too excited based on some of the user reviews. I don't wanna be disappointed by a good album just because I was expecting it to be great after reading a bunch of rave reviews.


Yeah I agree, it's not gonna be a radical departure from Musicology, but it is
better. Plus it does have the welcome return of some Camille-style electro funk.

In through the gates, knock on the door
Leave your clothes in a pile on the floor
Take ur pick from the Japanese robes and sandals
Drink champagne from a glass with chocolate handles

Don't u wanna come? 3121
Gonna b so much fun 3121
That's where the party b 3121
U can come if u want 2, but u can never leave!
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Reply #118 posted 02/22/06 7:23pm

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BorisFishpaw said:

*snip* it's not gonna be a radical departure from Musicology, but it is better.


Have you heard the album, Boris? Or are you going by "what you've been told"?

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Reply #119 posted 02/23/06 9:19am

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PurpleKnight said:

This is how I'd rate the songs I've heard off of 3121:

Te Amo Corazon--Pleasant enough, but not particularly moving. 3/5

Black Sweat--Charming Prince pop song. Nice beat and not a half-bad chorus. Still, I feel like it's a little too short. 3.5/5

Beautiful, Loved & Blessed--I like its positive message, and the music in it is nice, but it fails to deliver anything really memorable. 3/5

Fury--Fun lyrics, fantastic guitar, and a great chorus. A great Prince rock song. 4.5/5


AMEN!
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