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Reply #30 posted 06/02/06 9:01am

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Did he have some gay experience during that period? confused
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Reply #31 posted 06/02/06 3:42pm

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SPYZFAN1 said:

I would have been happy too if I was dating Shelia, Susannah, and Cat all at the same time. P was spreading himself thin in 1988.

The relationship with Susannah had ended, and I'm unaware of any evidence that there was friendship with Cat beyond a professional level.
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Reply #32 posted 06/02/06 6:13pm

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Rebeljuice said:

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Yeah, but you can't have been anti before you experimented. Prince was anti-drugs well before Lovesexy. I don't think it is realistic to say he was anti it, experimented, and then was anti it again. I tend to find that those who insist Prince has taken drugs are into drugs themselves and it's like a way of justifying themselves. Hey, I couldn't care less one way or another, if he was a big drug addict but knocked out great music I'd still listen to it, it's just that there's no evidence.
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As someone who used to do quite a lot of ecstacy I also think the stories are bollocks. E doesnt have the kind of trippy paranoid effect that the stories suggest he suffered from. Having a bad trip is more attributed to Acid and, to some extent even weed. I dont see P indulging in either of those. Charlie and E? Naaaa... He woulda made 3 albums a day if he was ever on that shit... He also would have embraced the world of techno and other dance genres too...


oh you can get weird thoughts on Xtcy, especially the late 80's kind. And you can still hate techno and house...
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Reply #33 posted 06/02/06 6:43pm

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I think the fact that his happiness wasn't dependent on a anyone individual is why he was happy and free.
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Reply #34 posted 06/03/06 4:54am

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Rebeljuice u can have a bad trip on ny drug u do! Especially with XTC i mean think about wat it is. Dodgy chemicals which most of the time arnt MDMA (the pure form of ectasy) and ends out being cleaning products with the slightest hint of MDMA.
A bad trip doesnt need 2 be flipping out and seeing all crazy things flying around or wateva, a bad trip could be nything, if its alcohol u coulda drank 2 much and passed out sumwhere and have no recollection of the night the next day, or it could b smack or sumthin and u could have ODed and are dead. Now that would b a very bad trip.
And as for there being no evidence of it, clearly there will be no evidence of it, if he were taking XTC its a pill therefore there would be no evidence of it so he could have dropped many pills for all we know.
I remember not too long ago Daniel Johns the frontman of Silverchair & The Dissosciatives was on a few talks shows promoting the Dissos first album and there was much talk that Daniel was on XTC, he showed all they symptoms of sum1 on it, red eyes, really thirsty, talking shit etc but there was no evidence.
But then there are the celebrities who make their drug use known like the Beatles.
But i think P being the private person he is if he has taken it no1 would know, just like no1 knows wat his really doing now! and if sumbody did know P would make sure it isnt getting out to the public, and mayb the black album was the first time sum1 leaked info about P doing drugs! and since then has gotten chronically paranoid about it keeps it entirly to himself?
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Reply #35 posted 06/03/06 5:09am

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Anyways, I don't really care if Prince ever did drugz or not.

And ANY drug can leave you w/a cbad xperience, it depends on the person. But I think X has the most euphoric effect than any other.
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Reply #36 posted 06/03/06 7:08am

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kcwm said:


But i think P being the private person he is if he has taken it no1 would know, just like no1 knows wat his really doing now! and if sumbody did know P would make sure it isnt getting out to the public, and mayb the black album was the first time sum1 leaked info about P doing drugs! and since then has gotten chronically paranoid about it keeps it entirly to himself?


I see it as innocent until proven guilty. Your argument seems to be, not having any evidence means a person can be upto anything! Yeah, perhaps Prince robs banks for all we know but of course he conceals we don't know either way!

The evidence that Prince hasn't taken drugs because he is anti-drugs is stronger because he has made anti-drugs comments on his records, before and after Lovesexy. Not fact, but stronger evidence. I think it's ridiculous to suggest Lovesexy has a more trippy feel than most other Prince records and therefore MUST have been influenced by drugs. He's done plenty of surreal songs before and after, it's called having an imagination.

It's similar with Prince's girlfriends. We don't know for definite who was a proper girlfriend of Prince's, but evidence suggests Cat wasn't, more than that it does. Simply because he had access to her does not inherently mean stuff went on.
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Reply #37 posted 06/03/06 5:00pm

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Rebeljuice u can have a bad trip on ny drug u do! Especially with XTC i mean think about wat it is. Dodgy chemicals which most of the time arnt MDMA (the pure form of ectasy) and ends out being cleaning products with the slightest hint of MDMA.
A bad trip doesnt need 2 be flipping out and seeing all crazy things flying around or wateva, a bad trip could be nything, if its alcohol u coulda drank 2 much and passed out sumwhere and have no recollection of the night the next day, or it could b smack or sumthin and u could have ODed and are dead. Now that would b a very bad trip.



I agree, youre right. But according to the stories (true or not) we're talking about the kinda "life changing" epiphany-type of bad trip. You can bum out on any drug, alcohol included, but to have a freak out that causes one to reflect upon their past and freak out to the point of complete change, then it has to have hallucinagenic triggers... xtc (with horse tranquiliser or not), alcohol, smack (unless dead!lol), charley and all that just doesnt create a long term paranoia in the brain...(ok, with charly im on thin ice here). Thats all Im sayin'... Who knows what Prince has or has not done. Different drugs do different things to different people. Maybe he just had one glass of wine too many. I just think the whole "P dropped an E and decided to drop the album and create SOT for fear of dying and being remebered for whatever" doesnt ring true to me... not from xtc...
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Reply #38 posted 06/03/06 6:01pm

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langebleu said:

SPYZFAN1 said:

I would have been happy too if I was dating Shelia, Susannah, and Cat all at the same time. P was spreading himself thin in 1988.

I'm unaware of any evidence that there was friendship with Cat beyond a professional level.

falloff lol lol
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Reply #39 posted 06/03/06 6:14pm

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chewymusic said:

langebleu said:


I'm unaware of any evidence that there was friendship with Cat beyond a professional level.

falloff lol lol


There was a hilarious Saturday Night Live skit back in the day, a parody of Entertainment Tonight called "Sex Tonight," which chronicled the sexcapades of the stars. Phil Hartman was the anchor and he reported, "Prince is on tour right now with back up dancer Cat Glover. Asked how the sex is going, Prince replied, 'We're not having sex yet. But I'd like to!'"

After a female commentator did her sex-related story, the camera turns back to Phil Hartman and he just says: "SEX! SEX! SEX! Back to you, Martha."
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Reply #40 posted 06/04/06 11:23am

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langebleu said:

SPYZFAN1 said:

I would have been happy too if I was dating Shelia, Susannah, and Cat all at the same time. P was spreading himself thin in 1988.

The relationship with Susannah had ended, and I'm unaware of any evidence that there was friendship with Cat beyond a professional level.


Prince was not into Cat at all! She was just a dancer. They made up the romance intrigue as part of the SOTT movie concept in that tv interview with Brooks and Cat.
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Reply #41 posted 06/04/06 11:26am

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luv4all7 said:

Prince sounds so happy in all the Lovesexy songs. Very cheery. What was going on in this time of his life? Who was he with? That he seems so elated?



Prince was very very gay at the time.

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Reply #42 posted 06/04/06 10:10pm

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PFunkjazz said:

luv4all7 said:

Prince sounds so happy in all the Lovesexy songs. Very cheery. What was going on in this time of his life? Who was he with? That he seems so elated?



Prince was very very gay at the time.




really?damn it!why are all the cute men in the world either married or gay its just not fair!
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Reply #43 posted 06/05/06 12:20am

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luv4all7 said:



Yeah, I'm anti too, but that doen't mean I didn't experiment.....a lot.


Yeah, but you can't have been anti before you experimented. Prince was anti-drugs well before Lovesexy. I don't think it is realistic to say he was anti it, experimented, and then was anti it again. I tend to find that those who insist Prince has taken drugs are into drugs themselves and it's like a way of justifying themselves. Hey, I couldn't care less one way or another, if he was a big drug addict but knocked out great music I'd still listen to it, it's just that there's no evidence.
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No, that wouldn't be realistic as we know how consistent Prince is with his opinions.
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Reply #44 posted 06/05/06 4:08am

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Prince has always been anti-drugs, suggesting he was taking xtasy during the Lovesexy time hardly seems fair, there's no evidence at all
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It is WELL ACKNOWLEDGED in various printed media and confirmed by some people close to Prince that he took Ecstasy at least once during this period, which spawned The Black Album (numerous references to the experience in lyrical imagery such as "squirel meat" - a kind of high) and Lovesexy.
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Reply #45 posted 06/05/06 7:32am

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Rebeljuice said:[quote]

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Yeah, but you can't have been anti before you experimented. Prince was anti-drugs well before Lovesexy. I don't think it is realistic to say he was anti it, experimented, and then was anti it again. I tend to find that those who insist Prince has taken drugs are into drugs themselves and it's like a way of justifying themselves. Hey, I couldn't care less one way or another, if he was a big drug addict but knocked out great music I'd still listen to it, it's just that there's no evidence.
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As someone who used to do quite a lot of ecstacy I also think the stories are bollocks. E doesnt have the kind of trippy paranoid effect that the stories suggest he suffered from. Having a bad trip is more attributed to Acid and, to some extent even weed. I dont see P indulging in either of those. Charlie and E? Naaaa... He woulda made 3 albums a day if he was ever on that shit... He also would have embraced the world of techno and other dance genres too...[/quote]

Who did the remix on The Future from his next album?

Who knows, but the story goes that he did an E with Ingrid Chavez, which led to something of an epiphany, stopped th Black album and Lovesexy was produced instead.
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Reply #46 posted 06/05/06 6:44pm

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E doesnt have the kind of trippy paranoid effect that the stories suggest he suffered from.


yeah right, the come-downs can still be quite unpleasant... visual distortion, etc.
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Reply #47 posted 06/05/06 6:46pm

JPW

In any case, it is clear that Prince HAS tried at least E and no doubt some weed but I doubt anything else.

Prince is anti-drugs at the end of the day. End of story.
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