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Reply #30 posted 07/05/06 6:24am

herb4

Loved it.

I was getting really tired of hearing him do 'Let's Go Crazy'
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Reply #31 posted 07/05/06 6:45am

PurpleCharm

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Y'all are definitely in the minority.

It is an okay song. It's one thing to play it in a small venue environment with hard-core fans. It is another thing to use it to close out the BET awards.

Simply put..it is not a strong song and the stage show was very weak. The fans and what-not, choreography... very blah.. really, just bad. It ended an otherwise pretty live night.

Unfortunately, I think this is something that will pretty much confirm the opinion of the twenty-somethings that Prince WAS the mack, but he's not really in the game at all. Nothing to see here.. keep it moving.

Believe me, I'm just sick about it, but it's true. He's going to have to come much stronger than this pretty soon. This album he's got now is finished.

neutral


I agree.
That performance was for the hardcore fans and not the masses. The audience was lost on that performance, so ultimately, people thought Busta's set was the best, followed by the Chaka tribute. shrug
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Reply #32 posted 07/05/06 6:47am

Graycap23

HoneymoonXpress said:

I feel so...alone... boxed



It was the BOMB. My favorite so far from the 3121 songs that have been performed LIVe on TV.
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Reply #33 posted 07/05/06 6:49am

Graycap23

altavista said:

Y'all are definitely in the minority.

It is an okay song. It's one thing to play it in a small venue environment with hard-core fans. It is another thing to use it to close out the BET awards.

Simply put..it is not a strong song and the stage show was very weak. The fans and what-not, choreography... very blah.. really, just bad. It ended an otherwise pretty live night.

Unfortunately, I think this is something that will pretty much confirm the opinion of the twenty-somethings that Prince WAS the mack, but he's not really in the game at all. Nothing to see here.. keep it moving.

Believe me, I'm just sick about it, but it's true. He's going to have to come much stronger than this pretty soon. This album he's got now is finished.

neutral



As opposed 2 what? Ne-yo, Busta, Chris Brown?
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Reply #34 posted 07/05/06 6:51am

Graycap23

PurpleCharm said:

altavista said:

Y'all are definitely in the minority.

It is an okay song. It's one thing to play it in a small venue environment with hard-core fans. It is another thing to use it to close out the BET awards.

Simply put..it is not a strong song and the stage show was very weak. The fans and what-not, choreography... very blah.. really, just bad. It ended an otherwise pretty live night.

Unfortunately, I think this is something that will pretty much confirm the opinion of the twenty-somethings that Prince WAS the mack, but he's not really in the game at all. Nothing to see here.. keep it moving.

Believe me, I'm just sick about it, but it's true. He's going to have to come much stronger than this pretty soon. This album he's got now is finished.

neutral


I agree.
That performance was for the hardcore fans and not the masses. The audience was lost on that performance, so ultimately, people thought Busta's set was the best, followed by the Chaka tribute. shrug



Anyone.....let me repeat ANYONE who thought Busta's busted ass performance was better than Prince's needs a BRAIN check.
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Reply #35 posted 07/05/06 7:09am

vainandy

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I thought it was great until the crapper joined him.
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #36 posted 07/05/06 7:26am

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shorttrini said:

altavista said:

Y'all are definitely in the minority.

It is an okay song. It's one thing to play it in a small venue environment with hard-core fans. It is another thing to use it to close out the BET awards.

Simply put..it is not a strong song and the stage show was very weak. The fans and what-not, choreography... very blah.. really, just bad. It ended an otherwise pretty live night.

Unfortunately, I think this is something that will pretty much confirm the opinion of the twenty-somethings that Prince WAS the mack, but he's not really in the game at all. Nothing to see here.. keep it moving.

Believe me, I'm just sick about it, but it's true. He's going to have to come much stronger than this pretty soon. This album he's got now is finished.

neutral


If you asked me, aside from the Beyonce performance, his two were the best of the night. The show as a whole was terrible. His performance of 3121 seemed okay, cause it followed the "raise the roof" spectacle from before. If he were to close a concert with this, I don't think anyone would have any complaints. As for some of the "twenty-somethings" that u mentioned, most of them do not have a clue what real music inventive music sounds like. They were brought up in during the era of sampling...Where if they hear "Beyonce's "Crazy in love", they would think that it was an original song, instead of what it really is....a song that is based on a horn sample. Mind you, I am all for giving these young pups credit, but what about doing the homework, before asking for the credit.


Sampling has been going on since the seventies. That's how rap music was invented.
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Reply #37 posted 07/05/06 7:35am

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The 3121 performance was the most uninspiring thing Ive ever seen Prince do on television. It was still better than alot of what was showcased on this years BET Awards though. Prince has gotta step it up.

Remember when Prince used to dance? shrug
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Reply #38 posted 07/05/06 7:37am

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doeineffect said:

shorttrini said:



If you asked me, aside from the Beyonce performance, his two were the best of the night. The show as a whole was terrible. His performance of 3121 seemed okay, cause it followed the "raise the roof" spectacle from before. If he were to close a concert with this, I don't think anyone would have any complaints. As for some of the "twenty-somethings" that u mentioned, most of them do not have a clue what real music inventive music sounds like. They were brought up in during the era of sampling...Where if they hear "Beyonce's "Crazy in love", they would think that it was an original song, instead of what it really is....a song that is based on a horn sample. Mind you, I am all for giving these young pups credit, but what about doing the homework, before asking for the credit.


Sampling has been going on since the seventies. That's how rap music was invented.


True but a lot of the early rap songs had original music behind them. It also shared the airwaves with other music and didn't dominate everything like it does today.
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #39 posted 07/05/06 9:52am

PurpleCharm

Graycap23 said:

PurpleCharm said:



I agree.
That performance was for the hardcore fans and not the masses. The audience was lost on that performance, so ultimately, people thought Busta's set was the best, followed by the Chaka tribute. shrug



Anyone.....let me repeat ANYONE who thought Busta's busted ass performance was better than Prince's needs a BRAIN check.


It doesn't matter. You act like Prince is above courting the masses. Whether you want to believe it or not, P does care about sales and being accepted. The 3121 album was for the masses, not the hardcore fans...IMO. That's why he performed on AI, at the Brit Awards, on SNL, on GMA and on BET.

Sometimes I think people on here are saying that the performance was "the bomb" because it went over the heads of the audience. shrug
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Reply #40 posted 07/05/06 9:53am

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vainandy said:



True but a lot of the early rap songs had original music behind them. It also shared the airwaves with other music and didn't dominate everything like it does today.


To add to what u just said Vainandy, sampling was not how rap music was invented. Rappers or MC's would rap over the instrumental versions of records. Sampling came a little later. Rappers Delight is a perfect example of rappers rapping over an instrumental track. The Sugarhill Gang rapped over Chic's "Good Times, which by the way, was replayed by musicians. What u hear is NOT a sample, but musicians replaying "Good Times".
"Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth"
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Reply #41 posted 07/05/06 10:14am

Graycap23

PurpleCharm said:

Graycap23 said:




Anyone.....let me repeat ANYONE who thought Busta's busted ass performance was better than Prince's needs a BRAIN check.


It doesn't matter. You act like Prince is above courting the masses. Whether you want to believe it or not, P does care about sales and being accepted. The 3121 album was for the masses, not the hardcore fans...IMO. That's why he performed on AI, at the Brit Awards, on SNL, on GMA and on BET.

Sometimes I think people on here are saying that the performance was "the bomb" because it went over the heads of the audience. shrug
[Edited 7/5/06 10:12am]



Any artist who bothers 2 release a cd cares about sales. That's common sense isn't it?
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Reply #42 posted 07/05/06 10:55am

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I loved everything about it. The vocals (also Tamar's), the added horns, the overall sound of it, the braveness of doing such an unusual song at an awards show. I liked the stage show too, the dancing of the Twins was really something else.

The whole thing just funked and rocked. Big thumbs up. thumbs up!
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Reply #43 posted 07/05/06 11:01am

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shorttrini said:

vainandy said:



True but a lot of the early rap songs had original music behind them. It also shared the airwaves with other music and didn't dominate everything like it does today.


To add to what u just said Vainandy, sampling was not how rap music was invented. Rappers or MC's would rap over the instrumental versions of records. Sampling came a little later. Rappers Delight is a perfect example of rappers rapping over an instrumental track. The Sugarhill Gang rapped over Chic's "Good Times, which by the way, was replayed by musicians. What u hear is NOT a sample, but musicians replaying "Good Times".


I don't know. "Rapper's Delight" sounds pretty much like Chic's actual song to me, just looped forever over some drums.

An original rap song that comes to my mind is Kurtis Blow's "The Breaks". I think that's an actual song made from scratch from the ground up. If it's a sample of another song, I've never heard it. lol

Soul Sonic Force's "Planet Rock" is kind of like what you were talking about with "Rapper's Delight". They didn't sample Kraftwerk's "Trans Europe Express". They actually remade the song from scratch themselves but stole the groove.

Newcleus, Twilight 22, Divine Sounds, and Pretty Tony and Freestyle were others that made rap records from scratch. I started seeing compilations during the 1990s with songs like these and they were referring to them as electro. Hell, when they first came out they were simply known as rap. I think rappers wanted to come up with a separate genre to label these types of songs because they were no longer talented enough to make original stuff themselves. lol
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Reply #44 posted 07/05/06 11:38am

thedoorkeeper

I like it - so what does that make -
5 songs from 3121 he has done on TV?
Fury
Te Amo Curozon
Lolita
Satisfied
3121
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Reply #45 posted 07/05/06 11:39am

Graycap23

thedoorkeeper said:

I like it - so what does that make -
5 songs from 3121 he has done on TV?
Fury
Te Amo Curozon
Lolita
Satisfied
3121



Get on the boat was done on GMA.
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Reply #46 posted 07/05/06 11:45am

PurpleCharm

Graycap23 said:

PurpleCharm said:



It doesn't matter. You act like Prince is above courting the masses. Whether you want to believe it or not, P does care about sales and being accepted. The 3121 album was for the masses, not the hardcore fans...IMO. That's why he performed on AI, at the Brit Awards, on SNL, on GMA and on BET.

Sometimes I think people on here are saying that the performance was "the bomb" because it went over the heads of the audience. shrug
[Edited 7/5/06 10:12am]



Any artist who bothers 2 release a cd cares about sales. That's common sense isn't it?


I would think so, but sometimes I get the impression that some fans want P to be above courting the masses.
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Reply #47 posted 07/05/06 11:47am

Graycap23

PurpleCharm said:

Graycap23 said:




Any artist who bothers 2 release a cd cares about sales. That's common sense isn't it?


I would think so, but sometimes I get the impression that some fans want P to be above courting the masses.


Prince "fans" don't know what they want besides complaining about every damn thing.

Prince and Mint Condition SHOULD own the charts.....but they don't.
I know a few reasons why.
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Reply #48 posted 07/05/06 11:58am

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PurpleCharm said:

Graycap23 said:




Any artist who bothers 2 release a cd cares about sales. That's common sense isn't it?


I would think so, but sometimes I get the impression that some fans want P to be above courting the masses.


It's according to how you look at it. I would be all for Prince courting the masses if I thought Prince could change them into making better music. Instead, I'm afraid they might change Prince into making their kind of music.
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #49 posted 07/05/06 12:04pm

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BlB was also performed on snl.
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Reply #50 posted 07/05/06 12:46pm

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Personally I was caught off gaurd when he performed 3121 because I obviously thought that he was gonna perform Black Sweat but either way I loved it. I don't think there's anything he could do that I wouldnt like. excited
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Reply #51 posted 07/05/06 12:48pm

Graycap23

vainandy said:



It's according to how you look at it. I would be all for Prince courting the masses if I thought Prince could change them into making better music. Instead, I'm afraid they might change Prince into making their kind of music.



I've said this once and I'll say it again. Prince should make his kind of music.....what ever that might be.
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Reply #52 posted 07/05/06 12:55pm

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Graycap23 said:

vainandy said:



It's according to how you look at it. I would be all for Prince courting the masses if I thought Prince could change them into making better music. Instead, I'm afraid they might change Prince into making their kind of music.



I've said this once and I'll say it again. Prince should make his kind of music.....what ever that might be.


I totally agree but I am starting to hear songs like "Incense and Candles" and thinking to myself...."mainstream attempt, mainstream attempt...he's letting the dead asses influence him". lol
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Reply #53 posted 07/05/06 1:19pm

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Anybody who didn't like that performance should just leave Princeville and quick, cause we don't want cha. That was grade a for the purple freak.
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #54 posted 07/05/06 1:40pm

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Bad song choice, businesswise, but a pretty damn good performance otherwise. I'm just glad he seems to be enjoying his new material.
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Reply #55 posted 07/05/06 1:50pm

PurpleCharm

MendesCity said:

Bad song choice, businesswise, but a pretty damn good performance otherwise. I'm just glad he seems to be enjoying his new material.



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Reply #56 posted 07/05/06 1:50pm

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HoneymoonXpress said:

I feel so...alone... boxed

i loved it!
Stand Up! Everybody, this is your life!
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Reply #57 posted 07/05/06 2:03pm

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PurpleCharm said:

That performance was for the hardcore fans and not the masses. The audience was lost on that performance, so ultimately, people thought Busta's set was the best, followed by the Chaka tribute. shrug

Sweetie, the people who thought Busta's set was the best are FIFTEEN YEARS OLD AND UNDER. You can't take those kids' opinions seriously. lol
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Reply #58 posted 07/05/06 2:05pm

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HoneymoonXpress said:

I feel so...alone... boxed


I'm sure Prince liked it too comfort
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Reply #59 posted 07/05/06 2:06pm

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MendesCity said:

I'm just glad he seems to be enjoying his new material.

Me too! At least it's not like with Emancipation when he didn't do any songs hardly.
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