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Reply #450 posted 06/07/07 8:50am

mirrorbestfrie
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Lothan said:

adorable2 said:

I'm going to go off topic (whatever the topic of this thread is) and say I like Anx and he is usually very humurous and unconfrontational on the org.
I honestly believe he and Dansa are the best mods this place ever had.


better than luv4u?
wow
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Reply #451 posted 06/07/07 9:05am

Giovanni777

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mkaye8 said:

Anxiety said:



nod

believe it or not, i have a bit of a reputation for saying ridiculous things, usually on the hopes that people know i'm trying to be ridiculous.


I haven't been to the board in a while and I just read this whole thread. I want to know how does someone who calls themselves Anxiety become a moderator and how is a moderator allowed to treat people like crap? I just received an advance of this CD and unless it's a ploy to throw fans and djs off, everything Graycap has said is right on the money, i'm not commenting on anything else because I refuse to get attacked especially by the site's moderator.. Is there a thread on here that is not mean-spirited?


I don't know. I ended up taking most of the heat, by saying "Be Careful, My Brother" 2 Graycap.
Although Graycap has certainly gave away more info than I have, he is not giving up much here.
He is just saying that there will be some heavy guitar, and that someone from a past band lineup will be on the album.
'3121' had both of those as well. (Michael B, Sonny, and Sheila E.)
Of course, I know that this album will be quite different from '3121', but U all get my point here.
So it's pretty easy 4 Graycap 2 be correct here.
If U do, in fact, have an advance copy, then I'm guessing that U R a radio DJ, or program director.

Peace.

G.
"He's a musician's musician..."
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Reply #452 posted 06/07/07 9:18am

calldapplwonde
ry83

He also posted what is supossedly the very first line of the first song.
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Reply #453 posted 06/07/07 9:22am

pasquerto

Let's all hug it out.... its like being a psychic...I could take a couple stabs at whats on the new album and probably be right..
Here I go:
There will be a track that is so bad I never listen to it through even once
The twins lend their voices to the backup
Prince screams a couple times and gives you chills within the first three songs
Surprise apperances by old members

whew! I have the hotline right here! Charging 10/hr for my psychic services!
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Reply #454 posted 06/07/07 9:46am

vinaysfunk

I can't take it any longer. I wanted to post some support for Graycap23 and Giovanni777. It takes all kinds of people to make up a site, just like an exstended family. We all got them, some unique individuals who bring a slight twist to the discussion. As far as these people needing to prove their insiders, I find that approach a little insulting. I mean let people be who they want to be and say what they want to say and you as an individual decide what you want to believe or not to believe. I personally find Graycap23 and Giovanni's post interesting and amusing and provactive all at the same time. As far as the actual validity who cares, I am just glad there here and they choose to share their style with us. After reading many of the post makers on this site, there are academics, highly theatrical, and humorous people here. These two got their own hook and I support what they bring to the table. If the sytle of these two rubs you the wrong way leave it be and move on to another thread. I also personally like the style of Anxiety; it's kind of like uptown to me, it's all about being there! So in conclusion a shout out or should say a post out to Graycap23 and Giovanni777 and Anxiety, keep posting!
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Reply #455 posted 06/07/07 9:48am

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vinaysfunk said:

I can't take it any longer. I wanted to post some support for Graycap23 and Giovanni777. It takes all kinds of people to make up a site, just like an exstended family. We all got them, some unique individuals who bring a slight twist to the discussion. As far as these people needing to prove their insiders, I find that approach a little insulting. I mean let people be who they want to be and say what they want to say and you as an individual decide what you want to believe or not to believe. I personally find Graycap23 and Giovanni's post interesting and amusing and provactive all at the same time. As far as the actual validity who cares, I am just glad there here and they choose to share their style with us. After reading many of the post makers on this site, there are academics, highly theatrical, and humorous people here. These two got their own hook and I support what they bring to the table. If the sytle of these two rubs you the wrong way leave it be and move on to another thread. I also personally like the style of Anxiety; it's kind of like uptown to me, it's all about being there! So in conclusion a shout out or should say a post out to Graycap23 and Giovanni777 and Anxiety, keep posting!



so you must be a liar too.....birds of a feather.....
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Reply #456 posted 06/07/07 10:01am

Anxiety

mirrorbestfriend said:

vinaysfunk said:

I can't take it any longer. I wanted to post some support for Graycap23 and Giovanni777. It takes all kinds of people to make up a site, just like an exstended family. We all got them, some unique individuals who bring a slight twist to the discussion. As far as these people needing to prove their insiders, I find that approach a little insulting. I mean let people be who they want to be and say what they want to say and you as an individual decide what you want to believe or not to believe. I personally find Graycap23 and Giovanni's post interesting and amusing and provactive all at the same time. As far as the actual validity who cares, I am just glad there here and they choose to share their style with us. After reading many of the post makers on this site, there are academics, highly theatrical, and humorous people here. These two got their own hook and I support what they bring to the table. If the sytle of these two rubs you the wrong way leave it be and move on to another thread. I also personally like the style of Anxiety; it's kind of like uptown to me, it's all about being there! So in conclusion a shout out or should say a post out to Graycap23 and Giovanni777 and Anxiety, keep posting!



so you must be a liar too.....birds of a feather.....


nah, vinaysfunk is just trying to be positive and keep the peace, and i appreciate it. and maybe i *DID* bring the hammer down a little too hard on gio777 in this thread, but i don't ever regret erring on the side of harshness when i feel people on this site are being misinformed, whether gio777's/graycap's intentions were friendly or weaselly or otherwise.

one of the biggest cliches of the internet is that people go around posting lies and misinformation and nobody can believe a word they read online. the reason i enjoy being a news mod here is that i can try my best to weed out the bullshit and serve up what looks like legitimate information. because we have enough crap to deal with in our daily lives, why deal with deception and bullshittery when we're coming here to have some fun? that's where I'M coming from, and if i get a little overzealous, so be it. but show me the FACTS and i'll shut up and make nice REAL fast. nod

i think we've pretty much pounded every conceivable argument into the ground on this thread - i just wanna say that my issue is not with pummelling PEOPLE, but challenging their WORDS. if i didn't care about doing that, i think i'd be a shitty news moderator. shrug
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Reply #457 posted 06/07/07 10:03am

Giovanni777

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calldapplwondery83 said:

He also posted what is supossedly the very first line of the first song.


Oh yeah.
I don't have any info on that.
I can say, though, that although the album may have some heavy guitar, as Gray said, there will also be some heavy Funk.
Also, I think Femi Jiya may have been involved in the recording.
Peace.
G.
"He's a musician's musician..."
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Reply #458 posted 06/07/07 10:09am

Graycap23

Giovanni777 said:

calldapplwondery83 said:

He also posted what is supossedly the very first line of the first song.


Oh yeah.
I don't have any info on that.
I can say, though, that although the album may have some heavy guitar, as Gray said, there will also be some heavy Funk.
Also, I think Femi Jiya may have been involved in the recording.
Peace.
G.

Lol.....Prince always serves up the Funk.
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Reply #459 posted 06/07/07 10:12am

Lothan

vinaysfunk said:

I can't take it any longer. I wanted to post some support for Graycap23 and Giovanni777. It takes all kinds of people to make up a site, just like an exstended family. We all got them, some unique individuals who bring a slight twist to the discussion. As far as these people needing to prove their insiders, I find that approach a little insulting. I mean let people be who they want to be and say what they want to say and you as an individual decide what you want to believe or not to believe. I personally find Graycap23 and Giovanni's post interesting and amusing and provactive all at the same time. As far as the actual validity who cares, I am just glad there here and they choose to share their style with us. After reading many of the post makers on this site, there are academics, highly theatrical, and humorous people here. These two got their own hook and I support what they bring to the table. If the sytle of these two rubs you the wrong way leave it be and move on to another thread. I also personally like the style of Anxiety; it's kind of like uptown to me, it's all about being there! So in conclusion a shout out or should say a post out to Graycap23 and Giovanni777 and Anxiety, keep posting!
This is a community of all kinds of people. We are all free to post our opinions to something here. Sometimes, people are not going to like those opinions.
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Reply #460 posted 06/07/07 10:26am

hokie1

Anxiety said:

mirrorbestfriend said:




so you must be a liar too.....birds of a feather.....


nah, vinaysfunk is just trying to be positive and keep the peace, and i appreciate it. and maybe i *DID* bring the hammer down a little too hard on gio777 in this thread, but i don't ever regret erring on the side of harshness when i feel people on this site are being misinformed, whether gio777's/graycap's intentions were friendly or weaselly or otherwise.

one of the biggest cliches of the internet is that people go around posting lies and misinformation and nobody can believe a word they read online. the reason i enjoy being a news mod here is that i can try my best to weed out the bullshit and serve up what looks like legitimate information. because we have enough crap to deal with in our daily lives, why deal with deception and bullshittery when we're coming here to have some fun? that's where I'M coming from, and if i get a little overzealous, so be it. but show me the FACTS and i'll shut up and make nice REAL fast. nod

i think we've pretty much pounded every conceivable argument into the ground on this thread - i just wanna say that my issue is not with pummelling PEOPLE, but challenging their WORDS. if i didn't care about doing that, i think i'd be a shitty news moderator. shrug


falloff
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Reply #461 posted 06/07/07 11:23am

DevotedPuppy

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Giovanni777 said:

mkaye8 said:



I haven't been to the board in a while and I just read this whole thread. I want to know how does someone who calls themselves Anxiety become a moderator and how is a moderator allowed to treat people like crap? I just received an advance of this CD and unless it's a ploy to throw fans and djs off, everything Graycap has said is right on the money, i'm not commenting on anything else because I refuse to get attacked especially by the site's moderator.. Is there a thread on here that is not mean-spirited?


I don't know. I ended up taking most of the heat, by saying "Be Careful, My Brother" 2 Graycap.
Although Graycap has certainly gave away more info than I have, he is not giving up much here.
He is just saying that there will be some heavy guitar, and that someone from a past band lineup will be on the album.
'3121' had both of those as well. (Michael B, Sonny, and Sheila E.)
Of course, I know that this album will be quite different from '3121', but U all get my point here.
So it's pretty easy 4 Graycap 2 be correct here.
If U do, in fact, have an advance copy, then I'm guessing that U R a radio DJ, or program director.

Peace.

G.


**disclaimer: not directed towards Giovanni, just in response to the bolded statement**

Based on his use of "r3volution" in the opening comment I feel that Gray is heavily implying someone from The Revolution will be involved; which, as most of us know, causes a good portion of the fan base to salivate like Pavlov's dogs (I'm more of a Lovesexy girl, myself, but I digress...).

Other than that, everything else Gray claimed to know in the o.p. is very generic. Anyone with slightly more than a passing interest in Prince could say his next album will feature heavy guitars or funky guitars or guitar and be right. Because Prince plays guitar--there will be at least one song that has kick-ass guitar. That's like saying the summer is going to have some really hot days. Not something I'd deem "inside info."

Over the past year, I have seen several threads started by Graycap that make generic statements about Prince's next moves. As far as I can remember, nothing he has claimed has happened. Of course the most infamous "the real reason Prince has been silent" was supposedly based on a telephone conversation Gray had with Prince....so what's the reason that stuff didn't happen? The ever convenient, "Prince changed his mind."

We all know that any info related to Prince is subject to change, but what is most irritating with relation to Gray's posts is that they seldom contain anything except vague yet obvious statements (e.g. lots of guitar) and rarely anything specific. The rare instances where something specific has been claimed have been WRONG. (see "the real reason prince has been silent" thread)

If the first line of the first song of the next album (Planet Earth) is in fact, "Dance the dance electric" as Gray stated earlier in this thread I will apologize. But based on his track record, I don't think I'll need to, and his reputation is still tarnished imho. And if some member of the Revolution is not involved (which I don't think any are) then Gray shouldn't have used that word TWICE in his original post. (Regardless of whether he meant the band, Gray knows enough to know that the use of that word on this site automatically makes people jump to conclusions.)
"Your presence and dry wit are appealing in a mysterious way."
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Reply #462 posted 06/07/07 11:52am

linus4000

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This thread is quite amusing biggrin
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Reply #463 posted 06/07/07 12:24pm

Raze

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Anxiety said:

mkaye8 said:



I haven't been to the board in a while and I just read this whole thread. I want to know how does someone who calls themselves Anxiety become a moderator and how is a moderator allowed to treat people like crap? I just received an advance of this CD and unless it's a ploy to throw fans and djs off, everything Graycap has said is right on the money, i'm not commenting on anything else because I refuse to get attacked especially by the site's moderator.. Is there a thread on here that is not mean-spirited?



hug

thank you for your balanced and eye-opening take. i think it's totally cool that you have an advanced copy of the new prince CD and can settle some of the arguments on this thread. can you give us the track listing?


lol
"Half of what I say is meaningless; but I say it so that the other half may reach you." - Kahlil Gibran
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Reply #464 posted 06/07/07 2:16pm

JediTodd

luv4u said:

I know that whenever Prince puts out, I've been pleased smile

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Reply #465 posted 06/07/07 3:23pm

purplebutterfl
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Can't wait
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Reply #466 posted 06/08/07 1:37am

love2thenines2
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...the Bad vibes & bad things said about Graycap & Giovannni make me sad....the Haters will be always the Haters!

I wish only that this Album is very different from the 2 previous ones...and ROCK HARD (and FUNK HARD too....not plastic RNB/Soul Pleaz)....i hope that Wendy and lisa will be on this album!!

.....further details about this new album would be a lot appreciated....this is an SOS for the Good souls....Giovanni...Mike and the other insider ones!

Peace 2 All
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Reply #467 posted 06/08/07 6:34am

Lothan

love2thenines2003 said:

...the Bad vibes & bad things said about Graycap & Giovannni make me sad....the Haters will be always the Haters!

I wish only that this Album is very different from the 2 previous ones...and ROCK HARD (and FUNK HARD too....not plastic RNB/Soul Pleaz)....i hope that Wendy and lisa will be on this album!!

.....further details about this new album would be a lot appreciated....this is an SOS for the Good souls....Giovanni...Mike and the other insider ones!

Peace 2 All
wink
will y'all please get the fuck outta here with the word "hater"?

If what either of them say is true, then they are betraying a confidence. If what either of them say is false, then it's an attempt to garner attention.
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Reply #468 posted 06/08/07 7:44am

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Lothan said:

love2thenines2003 said:

...the Bad vibes & bad things said about Graycap & Giovannni make me sad....the Haters will be always the Haters!

I wish only that this Album is very different from the 2 previous ones...and ROCK HARD (and FUNK HARD too....not plastic RNB/Soul Pleaz)....i hope that Wendy and lisa will be on this album!!

.....further details about this new album would be a lot appreciated....this is an SOS for the Good souls....Giovanni...Mike and the other insider ones!

Peace 2 All
wink
will y'all please get the fuck outta here with the word "hater"?

If what either of them say is true, then they are betraying a confidence. If what either of them say is false, then it's an attempt to garner attention.


U better watch yourself, Lothan.
I have betrayed NOTHING. Prince is aware of what I've said, and what U all have said. I can't say again... I do nothing here 4 attention. U all have serious TRUST issues, and that is painfully clear.
I've been in the music business all of my life, and 99% of my posts on this damn site R strictly about music.
The reason he is calling U haters, is because U R acting like it. Cynical, mistrusting, insulting, and ignorant.
[Edited 6/8/07 7:50am]
"He's a musician's musician..."
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Reply #469 posted 06/08/07 7:56am

Graycap23

Giovanni777 said:


I have betrayed NOTHING. Prince is aware of what I've said, and what U all have said. [Edited 6/8/07 7:50am]


I'll second that emotion.
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Reply #470 posted 06/08/07 7:57am

calldapplwonde
ry83

Giovanni777 said:

Lothan said:

will y'all please get the fuck outta here with the word "hater"?

If what either of them say is true, then they are betraying a confidence. If what either of them say is false, then it's an attempt to garner attention.


Prince is aware of what I've said, and what U all have said.



boxed







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Reply #471 posted 06/08/07 8:00am

Lothan

Giovanni777 said:

Lothan said:

will y'all please get the fuck outta here with the word "hater"?

If what either of them say is true, then they are betraying a confidence. If what either of them say is false, then it's an attempt to garner attention.


U better watch yourself, Lothan.
I have betrayed NOTHING. Prince is aware of what I've said, and what U all have said. I can't say again... I do nothing here 4 attention. U all have serious TRUST issues, and that is painfully clear.
I've been in the music business all of my life, and 99% of my posts on this damn site R strictly about music.
The reason he is calling U haters, is because U R acting like it. Cynical, mistrusting, insulting, and ignorant.
[Edited 6/8/07 7:50am]
So you are saying Prince is telling you or getting word to you to drop hints?

And I think folks oughta get their definitions of "hater" right. I am not jealous NOR do I wish to bring you or Graycap down. I was posting my opinion and it's really too bad if folks don't like that.
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Reply #472 posted 06/08/07 8:06am

Anxiety

Giovanni777 said:



Prince is aware of what I've said, and what U all have said.


see, it's this kind of thing that damages your credibility in my eyes. even if you know for a fact that he read every post on this thread and you guys discussed it at length, that's none of our business and making these little allusions make your comments come off looking like attention-seeking bait. prince isn't some mystical talisman whom you have to summon by way of drawing pentagrams on the floor and lighting candles; he's a damn human being with a busy life and things to do, and i'm sure a thread on the org is the least of his concerns.

it's as much about perspective as it is about truth and lies. i mean really. come on, now.
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Reply #473 posted 06/08/07 8:08am

Graycap23

Anxiety said:

Giovanni777 said:



Prince is aware of what I've said, and what U all have said.


see, it's this kind of thing that damages your credibility in my eyes. even if you know for a fact that he read every post on this thread and you guys discussed it at length, that's none of our business and making these little allusions make your comments come off looking like attention-seeking bait. prince isn't some mystical talisman whom you have to summon by way of drawing pentagrams on the floor and lighting candles; he's a damn human being with a busy life and things to do, and i'm sure a thread on the org is the least of his concerns.

it's as much about perspective as it is about truth and lies. i mean really. come on, now.



Ray Charles had eyes also.....
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Reply #474 posted 06/08/07 8:09am

Anxiety

Graycap23 said:

Anxiety said:



see, it's this kind of thing that damages your credibility in my eyes. even if you know for a fact that he read every post on this thread and you guys discussed it at length, that's none of our business and making these little allusions make your comments come off looking like attention-seeking bait. prince isn't some mystical talisman whom you have to summon by way of drawing pentagrams on the floor and lighting candles; he's a damn human being with a busy life and things to do, and i'm sure a thread on the org is the least of his concerns.

it's as much about perspective as it is about truth and lies. i mean really. come on, now.



Ray Charles had eyes also.....



and frosty the snowman had a corncob pipe, what's your damn point
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Reply #475 posted 06/08/07 8:14am

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Lothan said:

Giovanni777 said:



U better watch yourself, Lothan.
I have betrayed NOTHING. Prince is aware of what I've said, and what U all have said. I can't say again... I do nothing here 4 attention. U all have serious TRUST issues, and that is painfully clear.
I've been in the music business all of my life, and 99% of my posts on this damn site R strictly about music.
The reason he is calling U haters, is because U R acting like it. Cynical, mistrusting, insulting, and ignorant.
[Edited 6/8/07 7:50am]
So you are saying Prince is telling you or getting word to you to drop hints?

And I think folks oughta get their definitions of "hater" right. I am not jealous NOR do I wish to bring you or Graycap down. I was posting my opinion and it's really too bad if folks don't like that.


No he's not telling me 2 drop those "hints", but as I said, he is aware of what I've said, and appreciates that I've held back.
"He's a musician's musician..."
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Reply #476 posted 06/08/07 8:17am

Lothan

Giovanni777 said:

Lothan said:

So you are saying Prince is telling you or getting word to you to drop hints?

And I think folks oughta get their definitions of "hater" right. I am not jealous NOR do I wish to bring you or Graycap down. I was posting my opinion and it's really too bad if folks don't like that.


No he's not telling me 2 drop those "hints", but as I said, he is aware of what I've said, and appreciates that I've held back.
Okay. Thank you for your answer.
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Reply #477 posted 06/08/07 8:19am

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Anxiety said:

Giovanni777 said:



Prince is aware of what I've said, and what U all have said.


see, it's this kind of thing that damages your credibility in my eyes. even if you know for a fact that he read every post on this thread and you guys discussed it at length, that's none of our business and making these little allusions make your comments come off looking like attention-seeking bait. prince isn't some mystical talisman whom you have to summon by way of drawing pentagrams on the floor and lighting candles; he's a damn human being with a busy life and things to do, and i'm sure a thread on the org is the least of his concerns.

it's as much about perspective as it is about truth and lies. i mean really. come on, now.


You're not getting it, ANX. I am not assuming this because I think he reads the forum. It goes a little deeper than that. I can see how Journalism was your major. U R trying 2 bait me into saying outright that I have direct contact with Prince, and as soon as I'd say I do, the flaming would commence again. There is a very basic problem here. U assume I'm dishonest, and I'm not. We'll never get anywhere like that.

Peace.
"He's a musician's musician..."
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Reply #478 posted 06/08/07 8:22am

Lothan

Giovanni777 said:

Anxiety said:



see, it's this kind of thing that damages your credibility in my eyes. even if you know for a fact that he read every post on this thread and you guys discussed it at length, that's none of our business and making these little allusions make your comments come off looking like attention-seeking bait. prince isn't some mystical talisman whom you have to summon by way of drawing pentagrams on the floor and lighting candles; he's a damn human being with a busy life and things to do, and i'm sure a thread on the org is the least of his concerns.

it's as much about perspective as it is about truth and lies. i mean really. come on, now.


You're not getting it, ANX. I am not assuming this because I think he reads the forum. It goes a little deeper than that. I can see how Journalism was your major. U R trying 2 bait me into saying outright that I have direct contact with Prince, and as soon as I'd say I do, the flaming would commence again. There is a very basic problem here. U assume I'm dishonest, and I'm not. We'll never get anywhere like that.

Peace.
Honest question: where is there flaming on this thread?
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Reply #479 posted 06/08/07 8:22am

Graycap23

Giovanni777 said:

Anxiety said:



see, it's this kind of thing that damages your credibility in my eyes. even if you know for a fact that he read every post on this thread and you guys discussed it at length, that's none of our business and making these little allusions make your comments come off looking like attention-seeking bait. prince isn't some mystical talisman whom you have to summon by way of drawing pentagrams on the floor and lighting candles; he's a damn human being with a busy life and things to do, and i'm sure a thread on the org is the least of his concerns.

it's as much about perspective as it is about truth and lies. i mean really. come on, now.


You're not getting it, ANX. I am not assuming this because I think he reads the forum. It goes a little deeper than that. I can see how Journalism was your major. U R trying 2 bait me into saying outright that I have direct contact with Prince, and as soon as I'd say I do, the flaming would commence again. There is a very basic problem here. U assume I'm dishonest, and I'm not. We'll never get anywhere like that.

Peace.



Hummmmm.....the student becomes the TEACHER.
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