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Thread started 04/27/06 2:23am

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Witney Houston...

I saw a picture of her a week ago...can someone tell me what happened to her? How deep did she land? And..why? What's involved in it so badly? I miss her in the shining years of the Bodyguard soundtrack and, of course, at the times when she used to duet with other stars in the late nineties. Will she ever recover from the evil that has occured to her?
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Reply #1 posted 04/27/06 2:30am

DavidEye

did you see that pciture of her at an Atlanta gas station? disbelief

I was shocked when I saw that.
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Reply #2 posted 04/27/06 2:32am

cipster

Nope I haven't. Was it that bad? she drunk or something?
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Reply #3 posted 04/27/06 2:35am

DavidEye

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Nope I haven't. Was it that bad? she drunk or something?


She arrived there early in the morning,a fan approached her and asked if he could take a picture with her.She looks AWFUL....she's wearing an old,messy wig and she looks worn-down and extremely high.It's a really,really sad picture.
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Reply #4 posted 04/27/06 8:20am

Icicle

It`s so sad, and what`s worse is her attitude, it seems like she`s determent to live her life the way she wants, and don`t listen to anyone.

Still, when she`s all dressed up and and with make-up, there`s NO ONE as beautiful as her, NO ONE.
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Reply #5 posted 04/27/06 8:24am

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She looks AWFUL....she's wearing an old,messy wig and she looks worn-down and extremely high.It's a really,really sad picture.


That's every Whitney picture from the last 5 years. lol
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Reply #6 posted 04/27/06 9:19am

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She's like the only celeb that if she were to clean herself up and do a turn about...she'd skyrocket back to where she was. People love her that much.

she should...

dump bobby publicly

get into rehab...and seriously rehab!

get healthy

write a book about her troubles

do an album

tour.

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Reply #7 posted 04/27/06 9:25am

VoicesCarry

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She's like the only celeb that if she were to clean herself up and do a turn about...she'd skyrocket back to where she was. People love her that much.


Really? I wonder. Most people I know consider her to be completely over and regard her as a total joke. Also, her style of music is simply out of favor right now.
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Reply #8 posted 04/27/06 9:42am

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VoicesCarry said:

superspaceboy said:

She's like the only celeb that if she were to clean herself up and do a turn about...she'd skyrocket back to where she was. People love her that much.


Really? I wonder. Most people I know consider her to be completely over and regard her as a total joke. Also, her style of music is simply out of favor right now.


I don't wonder at all. If she did clean herself up (for real) and spent some time singing in private to regain her vocal strength, I think she could make a huge comeback and people would flock to hear her sing. I also believe her album would sell millions because even though some think her music is "out of favour", I for one would welcome some real singing for a change.
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Reply #9 posted 04/27/06 9:48am

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kisscamille said:

VoicesCarry said:



Really? I wonder. Most people I know consider her to be completely over and regard her as a total joke. Also, her style of music is simply out of favor right now.


I don't wonder at all. If she did clean herself up (for real) and spent some time singing in private to regain her vocal strength, I think she could make a huge comeback and people would flock to hear her sing. I also believe her album would sell millions because even though some think her music is "out of favour", I for one would welcome some real singing for a change.


But her voice is shot. How can you recover something that has been permanently lost?
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Reply #10 posted 04/27/06 9:54am

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VoicesCarry said:

kisscamille said:



I don't wonder at all. If she did clean herself up (for real) and spent some time singing in private to regain her vocal strength, I think she could make a huge comeback and people would flock to hear her sing. I also believe her album would sell millions because even though some think her music is "out of favour", I for one would welcome some real singing for a change.


But her voice is shot. How can you recover something that has been permanently lost?


How do you know that her voice is "permanently" shot? Granted, she has sounded like shit the last few times she's performed, but if she got clean and learned how to sing properly again, I believe she would have as good a voice as ever!

I guess time will tell if she has it in her to get herself some serious help or if she's just going to stay in her drug induced stupor. Perhaps when Bobby-Christina starts doing drugs, Whitney and Bobby will see the light and do something about their own problems.
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Reply #11 posted 04/27/06 9:59am

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VoicesCarry said:

superspaceboy said:

She's like the only celeb that if she were to clean herself up and do a turn about...she'd skyrocket back to where she was. People love her that much.


Really? I wonder. Most people I know consider her to be completely over and regard her as a total joke. Also, her style of music is simply out of favor right now.


Is it? I suppose. BUt American Idol is all about grooming the Next WHitney. The music on that show is very much her style..IMO.

I think folks feel sad about WHitney. I really think that if we saw a new rehabed and healthy looking WHitney...most would give her a cautious forgiveness.

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Reply #12 posted 04/27/06 10:00am

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VoicesCarry said:

kisscamille said:



I don't wonder at all. If she did clean herself up (for real) and spent some time singing in private to regain her vocal strength, I think she could make a huge comeback and people would flock to hear her sing. I also believe her album would sell millions because even though some think her music is "out of favour", I for one would welcome some real singing for a change.


But her voice is shot. How can you recover something that has been permanently lost?


Is it? I don't think it's permanently gone.

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Reply #13 posted 04/27/06 10:05am

VoicesCarry

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VoicesCarry said:



But her voice is shot. How can you recover something that has been permanently lost?


How do you know that her voice is "permanently" shot?


I heard her performance at the Olympics.

If she does come back, it will be a Mariah-like situation, where the studio vocal is completely doctored and she sounds like shit at basically every live performance. And Mariah has never ever ever sounded as terrible as Whitney has. Her voice is permanently damaged, but not shot.
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Reply #14 posted 04/27/06 10:06am

VoicesCarry

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Perhaps when Bobby-Christina starts doing drugs, Whitney and Bobby will see the light and do something about their own problems.


I hope that, for her sake, Bobbi Kristina doesn't start doing drugs.
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Reply #16 posted 04/27/06 1:20pm

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superspaceboy said:

VoicesCarry said:



Really? I wonder. Most people I know consider her to be completely over and regard her as a total joke. Also, her style of music is simply out of favor right now.


Is it? I suppose. BUt American Idol is all about grooming the Next WHitney. The music on that show is very much her style..IMO.


That's true, but except for Kelly Clarkson, American Idol winners don't do all that well on the charts. Their first singles sell really well, but get no airplay. Then they fade into obscurity. Where are Ruben and Clay now? What people like the most about American Idol is the contest itself, not the music.
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Reply #17 posted 04/27/06 2:40pm

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sextonseven said:

superspaceboy said:



Is it? I suppose. BUt American Idol is all about grooming the Next WHitney. The music on that show is very much her style..IMO.


That's true, but except for Kelly Clarkson, American Idol winners don't do all that well on the charts. Their first singles sell really well, but get no airplay. Then they fade into obscurity. Where are Ruben and Clay now? What people like the most about American Idol is the contest itself, not the music.


I thoughtt Kelly was doing really really well now. Was her album up there with Princey's? Didn't they even want to use her music and she wouldn't let them?

Ruben...I figured he go into obscurity once he opened up a resturant. Clay got the better deal and I think he still tours and stuff like that.

Fantasia? Who knows. Cracked out in an alley somewheres.

ANd last years winner is doing ok I thought.

But my point is that the music on the show is more of WHitney crooning type than it is current...I don't think I have heard hip -hop on AI yet or rapping even...though those are 2 of the most popular styles of music.

WHitneys style, IMO is more classic...and there fore timeless.

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Reply #18 posted 04/27/06 2:47pm

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superspaceboy said:

sextonseven said:



That's true, but except for Kelly Clarkson, American Idol winners don't do all that well on the charts. Their first singles sell really well, but get no airplay. Then they fade into obscurity. Where are Ruben and Clay now? What people like the most about American Idol is the contest itself, not the music.


I thoughtt Kelly was doing really really well now. Was her album up there with Princey's? Didn't they even want to use her music and she wouldn't let them?

Ruben...I figured he go into obscurity once he opened up a resturant. Clay got the better deal and I think he still tours and stuff like that.

Fantasia? Who knows. Cracked out in an alley somewheres.

ANd last years winner is doing ok I thought.

But my point is that the music on the show is more of WHitney crooning type than it is current...I don't think I have heard hip -hop on AI yet or rapping even...though those are 2 of the most popular styles of music.

WHitneys style, IMO is more classic...and there fore timeless.


Kelly IS doing really well now. That's why I said "except for Kelly Clarkson". Carrie is doing well because she's fairly recent. I'd like to see where she is this time next year. Kelly is the only Idol winner that seems to have a career beyond the first album. Anyway, my point was that Whitney-type ballads work for the show, but that music wouldn't be successful for someone not affiliated with AI.

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Reply #19 posted 04/27/06 2:47pm

VoicesCarry

superspaceboy said:

sextonseven said:



That's true, but except for Kelly Clarkson, American Idol winners don't do all that well on the charts. Their first singles sell really well, but get no airplay. Then they fade into obscurity. Where are Ruben and Clay now? What people like the most about American Idol is the contest itself, not the music.


I thoughtt Kelly was doing really really well now. Was her album up there with Princey's? Didn't they even want to use her music and she wouldn't let them?

Ruben...I figured he go into obscurity once he opened up a resturant. Clay got the better deal and I think he still tours and stuff like that.

Fantasia? Who knows. Cracked out in an alley somewheres.

ANd last years winner is doing ok I thought.

But my point is that the music on the show is more of WHitney crooning type than it is current...I don't think I have heard hip -hop on AI yet or rapping even...though those are 2 of the most popular styles of music.

WHitneys style, IMO is more classic...and there fore timeless.


The music on the show is just A/C shlock to appeal to the lowest common denominator being sung by a bunch of karaoke rejects. That's the format. I am surprised Diane Warren hasn't been hired as a judge. But no one listens to it, and Kelly Clarkson is going to be the only major star ever to originate from the show because she changed the formula, and is no longer singing that shit.

You said last year's winner was doing well, but I don't even REMEMBER last year's winner lol Who was it now? Some blonde, right?

There are great and classic songs on AI, to be sure. But they're shit when they're sung by that batch of losers lol
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Reply #20 posted 04/27/06 2:48pm

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Well at least now she has the look to match the music she's always had....shit.
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Reply #21 posted 04/27/06 2:55pm

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VoicesCarry said:


You said last year's winner was doing well, but I don't even REMEMBER last year's winner lol Who was it now? Some blonde, right?


I believe Carrie Underwood is having success on the country charts although I haven't checked them recently, but yeah, no pop hits for her either.
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Reply #22 posted 04/27/06 2:56pm

VoicesCarry

sextonseven said:

VoicesCarry said:


You said last year's winner was doing well, but I don't even REMEMBER last year's winner lol Who was it now? Some blonde, right?


I believe Carrie Underwood is having success on the country charts although I haven't checked them recently, but yeah, no pop hits for her either.


Oh, she's country? PASS! evillol
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Reply #23 posted 04/27/06 2:58pm

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I just bawl fit mad Please Whitney, after this you'll feel much better: punch Wake up, what you're doing is bad! If you don't realize that soon you'll won't live so much longer, I'm afraid sad
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Reply #24 posted 04/27/06 3:11pm

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sextonseven said:

VoicesCarry said:


You said last year's winner was doing well, but I don't even REMEMBER last year's winner lol Who was it now? Some blonde, right?


I believe Carrie Underwood is having success on the country charts although I haven't checked them recently, but yeah, no pop hits for her either.


Country music is almost akin to pop music these days. So many songs cross over. She's prolly banging it to the bank with the country stuff.

Makes me wonder what is POP music?

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Reply #25 posted 04/27/06 3:12pm

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VenusBlingBling said:

I just bawl fit mad Please Whitney, after this you'll feel much better: punch Wake up, what you're doing is bad! If you don't realize that soon you'll won't live so much longer, I'm afraid sad


I wonder what her breaking point will be. Please..I hope she jsut doesn't OD.

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Reply #26 posted 04/27/06 3:16pm

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superspaceboy said:

sextonseven said:



I believe Carrie Underwood is having success on the country charts although I haven't checked them recently, but yeah, no pop hits for her either.


Country music is almost akin to pop music these days. So many songs cross over. She's prolly banging it to the bank with the country stuff.

Makes me wonder what is POP music?


Actually, now that Billboard has reduced the number of country stations reporting to the Hot 100 panel, country songs do not crossover as much. It's rare for a country song to chart higher than #30 these days.
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Reply #27 posted 04/27/06 3:38pm

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superspaceboy said:

VenusBlingBling said:

I just bawl fit mad Please Whitney, after this you'll feel much better: punch Wake up, what you're doing is bad! If you don't realize that soon you'll won't live so much longer, I'm afraid sad


I wonder what her breaking point will be. Please..I hope she jsut doesn't OD.


As it looks now it's possible. Though I really hope she gets some kind of epiphany before that. It would be terribly sad if not. sad Such a gifted and beautiful singer.
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Reply #28 posted 04/28/06 2:14am

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She's like the only celeb that if she were to clean herself up and do a turn about...she'd skyrocket back to where she was. People love her that much.she should...dump bobby publicly,get into rehab...and seriously rehab! get healthy,write a book about her troubles,do an album,tour.



It's a shame that Whitney can't seem to learn from her friend Natalie Cole.As we all know,Natalie had a serious drug problem too.She hit rock bottom in 1983.Things got so bad that her mother had to take control of her estate/ finances but Natalie went into rehab and dealt with her problems.When she got herself together,she was on all the talk shows,eager to discuss what she went through.The public was cheering her on,and she was able to make a late-80s comeback.This proves that artists can make a comeback after a drug addiction,but you gotta be honest and willing to get the help you need.You gotta show the public that you are SERIOUS about dealing with your problem.So far,Whitney has failed to do this.She's just continuing to make a fool of herself.....appearing in that stupid "reality show" with her husband.....going out in public looking like a crack ho who needs a new wig....she's become the punch line to a very sad joke.Unless she dumps Bobby,goes into rehab for a LONG TIME and talks openly and honestly about her problems,she won't make any kind of comeback.
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Reply #29 posted 04/28/06 2:31am

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DavidEye said:

superspaceboy said:

She's like the only celeb that if she were to clean herself up and do a turn about...she'd skyrocket back to where she was. People love her that much.she should...dump bobby publicly,get into rehab...and seriously rehab! get healthy,write a book about her troubles,do an album,tour.



It's a shame that Whitney can't seem to learn from her friend Natalie Cole.As we all know,Natalie had a serious drug problem too.She hit rock bottom in 1983.Things got so bad that her mother had to take control of her estate/ finances but Natalie went into rehab and dealt with her problems.When she got herself together,she was on all the talk shows,eager to discuss what she went through.The public was cheering her on,and she was able to make a late-80s comeback.This proves that artists can make a comeback after a drug addiction,but you gotta be honest and willing to get the help you need.You gotta show the public that you are SERIOUS about dealing with your problem.So far,Whitney has failed to do this.She's just continuing to make a fool of herself.....appearing in that stupid "reality show" with her husband.....going out in public looking like a crack ho who needs a new wig....she's become the punch line to a very sad joke.Unless she dumps Bobby,goes into rehab for a LONG TIME and talks openly and honestly about her problems,she won't make any kind of comeback.


Oddly enough, I mentioned this to a family member that lives in Whitney's neighborhood, is used to seeing The Browns out and about, and so on. One thing that she brought up is the idea that Natalie was single when her mom took the reigns of her situation (?)...Crackney has a HUSBAND who legally is the next of kin responsible for her well-being, so without his help, agreement, and his signature on a LOT of different papers, the Houston family members may be kind of limited in their choices for what type of rehabilation facility they can commit Whitney to, or taking away her drug money...

...as judgemental as this is going to sound of me, I actually believe that if Cissy Houston were any kind of mother, she would take BOTH of them to COURT to legally get athority to reel her baby back into LIFE...I said it years ago and I'll say it agin today, "WHERE IS HER MOM in all of this???" Before Whitney hit the skids, she was always so publically reverential of her mother and how she was raised ...where the hell is Cissy now.....????
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