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Reply #60 posted 06/16/06 8:05pm

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Superstar?????
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Reply #61 posted 06/16/06 8:06pm

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Anx said:

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Damn! Anx went WAAAAAY back with the Bazooka Joe! lol lol lol


i always liked it when they told the punchline and you saw someone's feet flying out of the panel. lol

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Reply #62 posted 06/16/06 8:08pm

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Superstar?????





or "princess" if you're nasty.
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Reply #63 posted 06/16/06 8:08pm

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i don't and can't install the player so can someone post it another way.
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Reply #64 posted 06/16/06 8:09pm

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Anx said:

missmad said:

Superstar?????





or "princess" if you're nasty.



haha but she's a "superstar" cause she can give em mad money
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Reply #65 posted 06/16/06 8:12pm

Anx

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Anx said:






or "princess" if you're nasty.



haha but she's a "superstar" cause she can give em mad money
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yeah, chetta can't do that. lol but she DID do a duet with moby, and that's gotta count for something!
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Reply #66 posted 06/16/06 8:19pm

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Anx said:

missmad said:




haha but she's a "superstar" cause she can give em mad money
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yeah, chetta can't do that. lol but she DID do a duet with moby, and that's gotta count for something!



maybe, she went 2 africa with bono 2, does that mean she actually knows anything worth of value, or does she want 2 b seen with the real cool folk
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Reply #67 posted 06/16/06 8:20pm

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yeah, chetta can't do that. lol but she DID do a duet with moby, and that's gotta count for something!



maybe, she went 2 africa with bono 2, does that mean she actually knows anything worth of value, or does she want 2 b seen with the real cool folk


no, i meant princess superstar, not the superstar princess. lol
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Reply #68 posted 06/16/06 8:25pm

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Anx said:

ok, i'm not even gonna read the responses to this thread because i already know what they're going to be ("i'm gonna eat a steak now", "people are more important than animals", blah blah blah, SO original).

that said, once again, PETA fucks it all up.

what would i have done? i would have had an intelligent conversation with beyonce and her family about my concerns, and i would have politely let her know that i spent $XXX to win this auction for the purpose of having this conversation. no cameras. no "ambush". no publicity stunt.

when PETA pulls these stunts, they polarize people. that's not what's going to improve animal welfare (notice i said WELFARE, not RIGHTS). when PETA gets it through their thick, extremist, ridiculous skulls that advocating for people to do just a LITTLE to live a cruelty-free life leads to a lot more improvement than DEMANDING that everyone live 1,000% by their standards, THEN maybe they'll make a difference.

i say screw PETA. and i'm an 18-year vegetarian.


Elegantly eloquent Mr. Anx. wink


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Reply #69 posted 06/16/06 9:59pm

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Anx said:

missmad said:




maybe, she went 2 africa with bono 2, does that mean she actually knows anything worth of value, or does she want 2 b seen with the real cool folk


no, i meant princess superstar, not the superstar princess. lol


oh hahaha
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Reply #70 posted 06/16/06 10:23pm

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theAudience said:

Anx said:

ok, i'm not even gonna read the responses to this thread because i already know what they're going to be ("i'm gonna eat a steak now", "people are more important than animals", blah blah blah, SO original).

that said, once again, PETA fucks it all up.

what would i have done? i would have had an intelligent conversation with beyonce and her family about my concerns, and i would have politely let her know that i spent $XXX to win this auction for the purpose of having this conversation. no cameras. no "ambush". no publicity stunt.

when PETA pulls these stunts, they polarize people. that's not what's going to improve animal welfare (notice i said WELFARE, not RIGHTS). when PETA gets it through their thick, extremist, ridiculous skulls that advocating for people to do just a LITTLE to live a cruelty-free life leads to a lot more improvement than DEMANDING that everyone live 1,000% by their standards, THEN maybe they'll make a difference.

i say screw PETA. and i'm an 18-year vegetarian.


Elegantly eloquent Mr. Anx. wink


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Maybe PETA extremists are not going to be intellectually soothing about it because their whole mode is under extreme emotional conviction due to perceptions of tangible ongoing death and cruelty they believe is heinous (like telling someone to stop scratching on a chalkboard by punching them), thus their tactics are emotional,disturbing, and often violent. It's only natural. I mean we're all living now off the past conflicts and death of other people and animals because of our tastes, ambitions, and docile acceptance of circumstance/conformity.
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Reply #71 posted 06/17/06 8:44am

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Maybe PETA extremists are not going to be intellectually soothing about it because their whole mode is under extreme emotional conviction due to perceptions of tangible ongoing death and cruelty they believe is heinous (like telling someone to stop scratching on a chalkboard by punching them), thus their tactics are emotional,disturbing, and often violent. It's only natural. I mean we're all living now off the past conflicts and death of other people and animals because of our tastes, ambitions, and docile acceptance of circumstance/conformity.


okay, sure, but i really believe to my core that the hallmark of compassion is understanding. and if an animal rights/welfare advocate can convey an UNDERSTANDING of why the normal average joe buys leather shoes and eats meat for dinner, i believe that's the first step in creating actual change. leather shoes are easier to find - and cheaper - than pleather shoes. plus, they don't wear out as quickly. it's easier to swing by mickey d's and buy some burgers for dinner than it is to throw together a tofu scramble (not to mention figuring out how to make it taste good). the lifestyle PETA wants everyone to adopt isn't an easy or quick transition. the change they (and, okay, *i*) would like to see is going to have to be gradual, and it's not going to happen by exposing people as villains. even if PETA's aim is completely genuine, i think they're going about it completely the wrong way and doing more harm than good.
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Reply #72 posted 06/17/06 10:00am

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Reply #73 posted 06/17/06 10:05am

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Anx said:

ufoclub said:



Maybe PETA extremists are not going to be intellectually soothing about it because their whole mode is under extreme emotional conviction due to perceptions of tangible ongoing death and cruelty they believe is heinous (like telling someone to stop scratching on a chalkboard by punching them), thus their tactics are emotional,disturbing, and often violent. It's only natural. I mean we're all living now off the past conflicts and death of other people and animals because of our tastes, ambitions, and docile acceptance of circumstance/conformity.


okay, sure, but i really believe to my core that the hallmark of compassion is understanding. and if an animal rights/welfare advocate can convey an UNDERSTANDING of why the normal average joe buys leather shoes and eats meat for dinner, i believe that's the first step in creating actual change. leather shoes are easier to find - and cheaper - than pleather shoes. plus, they don't wear out as quickly. it's easier to swing by mickey d's and buy some burgers for dinner than it is to throw together a tofu scramble (not to mention figuring out how to make it taste good). the lifestyle PETA wants everyone to adopt isn't an easy or quick transition. the change they (and, okay, *i*) would like to see is going to have to be gradual, and it's not going to happen by exposing people as villains. even if PETA's aim is completely genuine, i think they're going about it completely the wrong way and doing more harm than good.


unfortunately, it seems like major cultural and political changes are always rife with violence and force. but I do think that if PETA had more exposure via a gentle show on TV prime time or hit up MTV with their message, then they could really start the slow change going.

but to a someone in the passion of it, it's like WW2 Germany: the concentration camps are going, PEOPLE are dying and the mainstream is accepting with a turned head and buying the products, what can we do?

By the way, personally I gave up mammals but still eat fish and chicken. I gave up pork, beef, lamb after I drove by a slaughterhouse one night and smelled a horrible smell, and, on another day, I had this intense realization that the personalities, behaviors, and emotions of most mammals seem very human like (good and bad!), so I had to draw a line for myself. I find the idea of cannibalism horrifying, and then I anthropomorphize animals... so...

Plus, one year, I went crazy with grilling steaks, and my cholesterol went up in direct correlation!
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Reply #74 posted 06/17/06 10:12am

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ufoclub said:

Anx said:



okay, sure, but i really believe to my core that the hallmark of compassion is understanding. and if an animal rights/welfare advocate can convey an UNDERSTANDING of why the normal average joe buys leather shoes and eats meat for dinner, i believe that's the first step in creating actual change. leather shoes are easier to find - and cheaper - than pleather shoes. plus, they don't wear out as quickly. it's easier to swing by mickey d's and buy some burgers for dinner than it is to throw together a tofu scramble (not to mention figuring out how to make it taste good). the lifestyle PETA wants everyone to adopt isn't an easy or quick transition. the change they (and, okay, *i*) would like to see is going to have to be gradual, and it's not going to happen by exposing people as villains. even if PETA's aim is completely genuine, i think they're going about it completely the wrong way and doing more harm than good.


unfortunately, it seems like major cultural and political changes are always rife with violence and force. but I do think that if PETA had more exposure via a gentle show on TV prime time or hit up MTV with their message, then they could really start the slow change going.

but to a someone in the passion of it, it's like WW2 Germany: the concentration camps are going, PEOPLE are dying and the mainstream is accepting with a turned head and buying the products, what can we do?

By the way, personally I gave up mammals but still eat fish and chicken. I gave up pork, beef, lamb after I drove by a slaughterhouse one night and smelled a horrible smell, and, on another day, I had this intense realization that the personalities, behaviors, and emotions of most mammals seem very human like (good and bad!), so I had to draw a line for myself. I find the idea of cannibalism horrifying, and then I anthropomorphize animals... so...

Plus, one year, I went crazy with grilling steaks, and my cholesterol went up in direct correlation!


everybody knows chicken and fish are stupid hehe
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Reply #75 posted 06/17/06 10:14am

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EmbattledWarrior said:

ufoclub said:



unfortunately, it seems like major cultural and political changes are always rife with violence and force. but I do think that if PETA had more exposure via a gentle show on TV prime time or hit up MTV with their message, then they could really start the slow change going.

but to a someone in the passion of it, it's like WW2 Germany: the concentration camps are going, PEOPLE are dying and the mainstream is accepting with a turned head and buying the products, what can we do?

By the way, personally I gave up mammals but still eat fish and chicken. I gave up pork, beef, lamb after I drove by a slaughterhouse one night and smelled a horrible smell, and, on another day, I had this intense realization that the personalities, behaviors, and emotions of most mammals seem very human like (good and bad!), so I had to draw a line for myself. I find the idea of cannibalism horrifying, and then I anthropomorphize animals... so...

Plus, one year, I went crazy with grilling steaks, and my cholesterol went up in direct correlation!


everybody knows chicken and fish are stupid hehe


if that's the criteria for dinner, be careful - someone might be eating you soon! razz
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Reply #76 posted 06/17/06 10:26am

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Anx said:

EmbattledWarrior said:



everybody knows chicken and fish are stupid hehe


if that's the criteria for dinner, be careful - someone might be eating you soon! razz



lol lol lol
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Reply #77 posted 06/17/06 3:15pm

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This is the type of stuff that will get u a BEAT down. It's also why a lot of celebs stay AWAY from fans or so called fans.

Remeber what happened to Selena when she employed a fan?
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Reply #78 posted 06/18/06 1:25am

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the people use scare tactics to get their point across. i bet poor beyonce will be so terrified that if she wears fur or eats meat again some crazy freaky peta fool will jump out from nowhere and attack her again.

i've noticed that they seem to only go after women. have they ever gone after snoop, 50 or any of these other rappers who wear more fur than these women do?
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Reply #79 posted 06/18/06 9:17am

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have they ever gone after snoop, 50 or any of these other rappers who wear more fur than these women do?



hmmm.... I don't think anyone would... unless Shug joins PETA.
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Reply #80 posted 06/18/06 9:27am

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i've noticed that they seem to only go after women. have they ever gone after snoop, 50 or any of these other rappers who wear more fur than these women do?



Can you honestly picture anyone walking up to Slim Thug, Rick Ross, Suge Knight or even Snoop and tossing paint on their fur coat? lol Ooh, I would love to see that as well as the ass whoopings and gun battle that would ensue afterwards.
Snoop would say "I stopped wearing fur. Now I only wear PETAskin coats. Yep, that's right. Coats made from the skins of PETA members." nod pimp

They didn't come at Beyonce as agressively as they have some celebs. They are learning, I guess.
I heard this guy is next on the list:
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Reply #81 posted 06/18/06 9:32am

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Anx said:

ok, i'm not even gonna read the responses to this thread because i already know what they're going to be ("i'm gonna eat a steak now", "people are more important than animals", blah blah blah, SO original).

that said, once again, PETA fucks it all up.

what would i have done? i would have had an intelligent conversation with beyonce and her family about my concerns, and i would have politely let her know that i spent $XXX to win this auction for the purpose of having this conversation. no cameras. no "ambush". no publicity stunt.

when PETA pulls these stunts, they polarize people. that's not what's going to improve animal welfare (notice i said WELFARE, not RIGHTS). when PETA gets it through their thick, extremist, ridiculous skulls that advocating for people to do just a LITTLE to live a cruelty-free life leads to a lot more improvement than DEMANDING that everyone live 1,000% by their standards, THEN maybe they'll make a difference.

i say screw PETA. and i'm an 18-year vegetarian.
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One of the best posts ever!!! thumbs up!
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Reply #82 posted 06/18/06 11:31am

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Im not so mad at PETA doing this. At least they didnt splash her with anything. They were talking quietly and under controlled. I agree sometimes they can be brash but I respect their mission. What was up with Beyonce clamming up like that? I never hear or see her speaking up for herself, she always turns into this shell of defensiveness. Thats sad. She's OLDER that 25, (I know this 4 sure) acting like that?
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Reply #83 posted 06/18/06 1:20pm

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CherrieMoonKisses said:

Im not so mad at PETA doing this. At least they didnt splash her with anything. They were talking quietly and under controlled. I agree sometimes they can be brash but I respect their mission. What was up with Beyonce clamming up like that? I never hear or see her speaking up for herself, she always turns into this shell of defensiveness. Thats sad. She's OLDER that 25, (I know this 4 sure) acting like that?


I can imagine why. It's not really about her age - maybe she's a really gentle person on the inside & doesn't really know what to do when she feels like she's being attacked. She's been pretty adored by people in general for much of her life now & I can see why she would just withdraw instead of going jugular on a supposed "fan" shrug
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Reply #84 posted 06/18/06 1:55pm

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Someone should throw a bunch of rib bones at those skinny fascists of PETA. My boo is a veg head, but PETA make me sick. They make vegetarians look like terrorists. I myself am as left as they get, but damn PETA, grow the fuck up. Anyway, the War in Iraq is more important than some animal being abused. Call me cold hearted, but priorities are just that.
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Reply #85 posted 06/18/06 1:58pm

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Missmad, you single? You're a cutey..lol Damn, org woman are fine as shit..orge men are old ugly fuckas...like me...hahaha
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Reply #86 posted 06/18/06 3:04pm

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I don't think the PETA people did anything wrong.
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Reply #87 posted 06/20/06 2:08pm

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TMZ has the video. For PETA, it's pretty non-confrontational.
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Reply #88 posted 06/20/06 2:17pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

They make vegetarians look like terrorists.


This is the problem with so many "sides." Take any too emphatically and you look like a lunatic to the other side.

That's the reason I am a "Decline to State" politial party. Every side has its morons.
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Reply #89 posted 06/20/06 5:33pm

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RipHer2Shreds said:

TMZ has the video. For PETA, it's pretty non-confrontational.


I was thinking the same. It's actually a fairly polite conversation. Now, secretly taping her and such was a bit over the edge. But the rest of it wasn't really all that attacking.
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