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Thread started 05/24/07 12:20am

GangstaFam

"Prince...wrote 'Slave'. I'd have written 'Cunt'." -- Tori Amos

Good stuff! thumbs up!

From Maverick magazine:

Since 1992, Tori Amos – yodeling, flame-haired, profoundly intense – has filled a minority role of one as the world’s lone, piano-pulverising, folk-art crusader specialising in such whistleable pop themes as rape, miscarriage, masturbation, religion, patriarchal rule and uncompromising, hardcore feminism. Her imagery, meanwhile, has compromised even less, her 1996 opus ‘Boys For Pele’ seeing her suckle a pig at her breast and her latest album, ‘American Doll Posse’, depicting her brandishing a Bible while blood seeps down her legs in a role-playing double-album inspired by Greek mythology. Tori Amos is 43 years old.

“The maverick has to demand to be one. There are a lot of mavericks in training that may never get to be one. You have to pass through Maverick Boot Camp; there has to be struggle or you don’t know how to do it properly. And the struggle, a lot of times, is your greatest lesson. The most important thing is: what are you willing to do to take it to the world? You have to do things that are pretty ballsy. There are consequences to everything and you have to say, ‘Am I ready? Can I swallow that?’”

“Prince, for instance, is someone whose approach I admire. I fell out with my record company [Amos split acrimoniously with Atlantic in the mid-‘90s], who were far more interested in their stock shares than music. Prince fell out with his record company, yet was able to find other ways to continue to make music and be a force. I respect that. He had a very serious battle he had to fight. My attorney said to me, “Why don’t you write something on your face?” but I didn’t think it would have the same effect. He wrote ‘Slave’ – I’d have written ‘Cunt’.”

“I’ve been asked to tone it down over the years. It has been, word for word, “We need to get into K-Mart and Wal-Mart — will you just stop making the right wing angry?” The industry has a board to answer to. Advertisers and their ideologies and their alignments to religion. As a minister’s daughter, I figure I have rights too, so if it’s too loud, turn it up. I have a tomahawk on my hip and it’s singing.”

“The public doesn’t know — and I guess don’t need to know — that a lot of people have been fired and numbers have been cut in every record label. They can’t develop artists. Artists are on their own, so it’s up to themselves. So I am my own backer. I back all my own tours. Record labels aren’t in the business of being creative, so we created our own creative team. We’re self-contained, we have our own marketing plan, we’ve become our own fiefdom and we don’t answer to anybody.”

“I still love touring, without a doubt. It’s almost a Native American fire ceremony, a pow-pow. There’s lots of people, you’re all partaking and yet you’re individuals. It’s not a love-in, it doesn’t slide into that Californication, but there’s nothing like it in the world I’ve ever experienced. Somebody said to me, ‘Even making love?’ and I say, “Well, it’s as good as the best love I’ve ever made. When it’s good. And it is good.”

“Advice? Sage yourself (she mimes sprinkling the herb all over her head). You know sage? Native American sage, when they’ve been around evil! You can’t be afraid to walk into unsavoury situations. There’s nothing to be afraid of, is what I’m telling you. What’s the worst that could happen? That you wake up with your integrity intact? But be careful in how you do battle. You can’t out-fight anger. But you can outwit her.”
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Reply #1 posted 05/24/07 12:59am

IstenSzek

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cool! it's nice to see her mention him like this in a positive way.

remember that he put her video for "sleeps with butterflies" on the
npgmc website?

nice to see them respect each other. still something i would really
go mental over: prince + tori doing something together. whatever it
might be, i'm sure it would be very cool.
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #2 posted 05/24/07 1:17am

Fiona01

Yay for Tori. Love that lady biggrin
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Reply #3 posted 05/24/07 5:30am

CandaceS

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lol
"I would say that Prince's top thirty percent is great. Of that thirty percent, I'll bet the public has heard twenty percent of it." - Susan Rogers, "Hunting for Prince's Vault", BBC, 2015
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Reply #4 posted 05/24/07 5:48am

LittleSmedley

That's not very nice of her wink
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Reply #5 posted 05/24/07 7:50am

RodeoSchro

Funniest use of the "C" word I've ever heard was just before Roseanne Cash hit it big. She was playing at a club and opened her show with this statement: "I'm here to put the CUNT back in 'country music'!"

Unbeknownst to Roseanne, her parents Johnny Cash and June Carter Cash were in the audience.

Ouch!
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Reply #6 posted 05/24/07 11:04am

Raze

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Tori said:



He had a very serious battle he had to fight.




He really didn't. But nice comments from her anyway. And "cunt" .. that's funny biggrin




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"Half of what I say is meaningless; but I say it so that the other half may reach you." - Kahlil Gibran
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Reply #7 posted 05/24/07 11:07am

Cinnamon234

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Nice cool
"And When The Groove Is Dead And Gone, You Know That Love Survives, So We Can Rock Forever" RIP MJ heart

"Baby, that was much too fast"...Goodnight dear sweet Prince. I'll love you always heart
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Reply #8 posted 05/24/07 1:24pm

JasonStar

Love it biggrin
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Reply #9 posted 05/24/07 1:34pm

Ottensen

RodeoSchro said:

Funniest use of the "C" word I've ever heard was just before Roseanne Cash hit it big. She was playing at a club and opened her show with this statement: "I'm here to put the CUNT back in 'country music'!"

Unbeknownst to Roseanne, her parents Johnny Cash and June Carter Cash were in the audience.

Ouch!



I so completely understand that sort o female ranting
lol
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Reply #10 posted 05/24/07 2:07pm

Miles

'"Prince...wrote 'Slave'. I'd have written 'Cunt'." -- Tori Amos'

My first thought was that she disliked our Mr Nelson for some reason. lol
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Reply #11 posted 05/24/07 2:21pm

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Raze said:

Tori said:



He had a very serious battle he had to fight.




He really didn't.


It was serious.

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Reply #12 posted 05/24/07 3:24pm

Raze

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sextonseven said:

Raze said:





He really didn't.


It was serious.

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It was silly.
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Reply #13 posted 05/24/07 3:29pm

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Raze said:

sextonseven said:



It was serious.

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It was silly.


What he did was silly. The fight however was very serious.
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Reply #14 posted 05/24/07 4:16pm

GangstaFam

IstenSzek said:

cool! it's nice to see her mention him like this in a positive way.

remember that he put her video for "sleeps with butterflies" on the
npgmc website?

nice to see them respect each other. still something i would really
go mental over: prince + tori doing something together. whatever it
might be, i'm sure it would be very cool.

Dueling pianos!
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Reply #15 posted 05/24/07 4:57pm

Xagain

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Raze said:

sextonseven said:



It was serious.

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It was silly.


I agree. It was silly.
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Reply #16 posted 05/24/07 5:11pm

abierman

IstenSzek said:

cool! it's nice to see her mention him like this in a positive way.

remember that he put her video for "sleeps with butterflies" on the
npgmc website?

nice to see them respect each other. still something i would really
go mental over: prince + tori doing something together. whatever it
might be, i'm sure it would be very cool
.




how about 'My Computer'?


shrug
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Reply #17 posted 05/24/07 6:18pm

Raze

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sextonseven said:

Raze said:




It was silly.


What he did was silly. The fight however was very serious.



The fight was silly as well. He blew all that money they gave him, and started crying foul about it.
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Reply #18 posted 05/24/07 6:34pm

Xagain

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Raze said:

sextonseven said:



What he did was silly. The fight however was very serious.



The fight was silly as well. He blew all that money they gave him, and started crying foul about it.


And then wanted all his fans to care about how many millions he wasn't making because of contract HE signed. confused
Wah.
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Reply #19 posted 05/24/07 6:43pm

Raze

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Xagain said:

Raze said:




The fight was silly as well. He blew all that money they gave him, and started crying foul about it.


And then wanted all his fans to care about how many millions he wasn't making because of contract HE signed. confused
Wah.



And then turned around and sued them when they put up a website promoting him.
"Half of what I say is meaningless; but I say it so that the other half may reach you." - Kahlil Gibran
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Reply #20 posted 05/24/07 6:46pm

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Raze said:

Xagain said:



And then wanted all his fans to care about how many millions he wasn't making because of contract HE signed. confused
Wah.



And then turned around and sued them when they put up a website promoting him.

lol

Not to mention...worst hair ever.
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Reply #21 posted 05/24/07 6:52pm

GangstaFam

So anyway, yeah. I thought this was rather funny.
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Reply #22 posted 05/25/07 12:24am

meow85

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Miles said:

'"Prince...wrote 'Slave'. I'd have written 'Cunt'." -- Tori Amos'

My first thought was that she disliked our Mr Nelson for some reason. lol

When I read the title I thought it meant she'd said she'd have written "cunt" on Prince's face. lol
"A Watcher scoffs at gravity!"
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Reply #23 posted 05/25/07 12:27am

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sextonseven said:

Raze said:




It was silly.


What he did was silly. The fight however was very serious.

nod

Prince had good reason for what he did, he just didn't think things through as well as he could've. People got caught up in the theatrics of the name change, etc. and dismissed the message. Just like Sinead and her pope-picture ripping, Prince's worthy fight got lost behind the spectacle.


addendum: I in no way mean to compare the horrors of child abuse to Prince signing himself off in a shoddy contract, then complaining about it. Sorry if it read that way. razz

What I meant to refer to was his bigger point of artistic control and ownership, which even though Prince himself got silly about it is still an important one to try to have made.
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Reply #24 posted 05/25/07 7:20am

Raze

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meow85 said:

sextonseven said:



What he did was silly. The fight however was very serious.

nod

Prince had good reason for what he did, he just didn't think things through as well as he could've. People got caught up in the theatrics of the name change, etc. and dismissed the message. Just like Sinead and her pope-picture ripping, Prince's worthy fight got lost behind the spectacle.


addendum: I in no way mean to compare the horrors of child abuse to Prince signing himself off in a shoddy contract, then complaining about it. Sorry if it read that way. razz

What I meant to refer to was his bigger point of artistic control and ownership, which even though Prince himself got silly about it is still an important one to try to have made.
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Right, but that's what I was saying. It wasn't serious. 9/11. Darfur. Cancer. That's serious, on a global or personal level. Some millionaire squabbling with his employer over something he already had (artistic control) is not serious. It's silly.
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Reply #25 posted 05/25/07 9:16am

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abierman said:

IstenSzek said:

cool! it's nice to see her mention him like this in a positive way.

remember that he put her video for "sleeps with butterflies" on the
npgmc website?

nice to see them respect each other. still something i would really
go mental over: prince + tori doing something together. whatever it
might be, i'm sure it would be very cool
.




how about 'My Computer'?


shrug



That was Kate, not Tori.
" I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?"
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Reply #26 posted 05/25/07 9:32am

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Raze said:

meow85 said:


nod

Prince had good reason for what he did, he just didn't think things through as well as he could've. People got caught up in the theatrics of the name change, etc. and dismissed the message. Just like Sinead and her pope-picture ripping, Prince's worthy fight got lost behind the spectacle.


addendum: I in no way mean to compare the horrors of child abuse to Prince signing himself off in a shoddy contract, then complaining about it. Sorry if it read that way. razz

What I meant to refer to was his bigger point of artistic control and ownership, which even though Prince himself got silly about it is still an important one to try to have made.
[Edited 5/25/07 0:29am]




Right, but that's what I was saying. It wasn't serious. 9/11. Darfur. Cancer. That's serious, on a global or personal level. Some millionaire squabbling with his employer over something he already had (artistic control) is not serious. It's silly.


I consider artistic control serious. And he obviously didn't have it if Warner was preventing him from releasing records (The Undertaker).
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Raze

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sextonseven said:

Raze said:





Right, but that's what I was saying. It wasn't serious. 9/11. Darfur. Cancer. That's serious, on a global or personal level. Some millionaire squabbling with his employer over something he already had (artistic control) is not serious. It's silly.


I consider artistic control serious.




I don't take it seriously when the artist doesn't address the matter in a serious manner. Writing "slave" on one's face is not the behavior of a serious person.
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Reply #28 posted 05/25/07 10:09am

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Raze said:

sextonseven said:



I consider artistic control serious.




I don't take it seriously when the artist doesn't address the matter in a serious manner. Writing "slave" on one's face is not the behavior of a serious person.


Well, we both agree his behavior was silly. That's a start. smile
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Raze

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Miles said:

'"Prince...wrote 'Slave'. I'd have written 'Cunt'." -- Tori Amos'

My first thought was that she disliked our Mr Nelson for some reason. lol




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