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Why is it that Disco lasted for 10 years but Rap has been popularized for over 20 years. I am trying to understand it because Disco had good music but why did it last for 10 years but this gangsta rap hip hop shit (i don't mean all) lasted over 20 years. | |
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Disco never died, it changed and got renamed.
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Cinnie said: Disco never died, it changed and got renamed.
Rap changed a lot too but was never renamed for its unique styles. Yep. Disco evolved into different branches. Disco gave birth to house that gave birth to Garage and Techno and other subgenres Rap is a pretty much a subgenre also Bboy87, Timmy84, LittleBlueCorvette, MuthaFunka, phunkdaddy, and Christopher: the revamped nWo!
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bboy87 said: Cinnie said: Disco never died, it changed and got renamed.
Rap changed a lot too but was never renamed for its unique styles. Yep. Disco evolved into different branches. Disco gave birth to house that gave birth to Garage and Techno and other subgenres Rap is a pretty much a subgenre also yeah Dico really never 'died' but brought electro and new wave in the 80's..especially House Music. Donna Summers "I Feel Love" is example of that evolution [Edited 5/23/08 12:07pm] | |
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Disco lived on in other forms such as house music but there was definately a huge backlash against it in the early 1980s and there are people to this very day that absolutely hate disco.
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neoretro7 said: I am trying to understand it because Disco had good music but why did it last for 10 years but this gangsta rap hip hop shit (i don't mean all) lasted over 20 years.
[Edited 5/23/08 10:26am] Disco had good music ? 
Anyway Gangsta rap didn't last 20 years, gangsta rap slowly died after Biggie and Pac got shot... And I take gangsta rap over Disco crap anyday... [Edited 5/23/08 14:51pm] | |
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neoretro7 said:
Disco had good music Hell yeah, disco had some good music. It's because of disco's influence, that the funk of the early 1980s was faster and more modern sounding than the funk before disco. | |
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krayzie said: neoretro7 said: I am trying to understand it because Disco had good music but why did it last for 10 years but this gangsta rap hip hop shit (i don't mean all) lasted over 20 years.
[Edited 5/23/08 10:26am] Disco had good music ?
Anyway Gangsta rap didn't last 20 years, gangsta rap slowly died after Biggie and Pac got shot... And I take gangsta rap over Disco crap anyday... [Edited 5/23/08 14:51pm] Of course you would because most of the stuff you like is dull anyway so that's no surprise. | |
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All valid points but I would like to add another reason.
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elem55 said: All valid points but I would like to add another reason.
Rap is a very easy art form for any one to do which makes it very attractive. Everybody and their momma is a rapper. Disco was usually done with live instruments which means that you would actually have to know how to play. Add to this the affordable home studio and your in business. This is it in a nutshel. The DIY approach makes any rapist, thug or hoodrat a musical genius.  
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elem55 said: All valid points but I would like to add another reason.
Rap is a very easy art form for any one to do which makes it very attractive. Everybody and their momma is a rapper. Disco was usually done with live instruments which means that you would actually have to know how to play. Add to this the affordable home studio and your in business. Actually, it really depends what you mean by sayin it's an easy art... Not everybody can rap like Jay Z,Krs One or Nas... Also Rap (I'm talking about rap from back in the days) is an art form that not everyone can do... First of all because it is based heavily based on lyrics... A rap song has far more lyrics than a singing song, rap requires also a great flow... Not everybody can rap with an efficient flow... And finally, you need to be a good freestyler... Not everybody can improvise... Improvising is a pretty tough thing to do... Disco music is based on instruments right but music at that time was based on instruments and also hip hop from the late 70's was based on instruments as well... And actually Disco has never been a real musical art like rock, folk or soul.... Disco was a music genre created by white people to make money with the black sound... It was not a art form or a musical movement ... It was just a commercial attempt... The matter of fact most Disco acts were not even real artists... Most of them didn't even sing on their record... The matter of fact Disco is the worst music genre ever... [Edited 5/23/08 17:58pm] | |
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elem55 said: All valid points but I would like to add another reason.
Rap is a very easy art form for any one to do which makes it very attractive. Everybody and their momma is a rapper. Disco was usually done with live instruments which means that you would actually have to know how to play. Add to this the affordable home studio and your in business. That's not exactly true. If anything, Disco brought about the popularity of drum machines. The reason why hip hop lasted longer than Disco is because it's a lot more diverse. A lot of hip hop records talk about what's going on around them and other issues. Disco pretty much stayed in one lane. Also, the people that are involved with hip hop know how to handle criticism better Disco people. After the whole Disco Sucks thing, Disco pretty much went underground & morphed into other genres. Hip Hop has been criticised since the begining and it didn't run away and hide at the first sign of trouble. JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!! |
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Eurobeat is the new disco. You should listen to it. | |
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paisleypark4 said: bboy87 said: Yep. Disco evolved into different branches. Disco gave birth to house that gave birth to Garage and Techno and other subgenres Rap is a pretty much a subgenre also yeah Dico really never 'died' but brought electro and new wave in the 80's..especially House Music. Donna Summers "I Feel Love" is example of that evolution [Edited 5/23/08 12:07pm] I'm loving the "electro-funk" revival  Bboy87, Timmy84, LittleBlueCorvette, MuthaFunka, phunkdaddy, and Christopher: the revamped nWo!
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Paris9748430 said: elem55 said: All valid points but I would like to add another reason.
Rap is a very easy art form for any one to do which makes it very attractive. Everybody and their momma is a rapper. Disco was usually done with live instruments which means that you would actually have to know how to play. Add to this the affordable home studio and your in business. That's not exactly true. If anything, Disco brought about the popularity of drum machines. The reason why hip hop lasted longer than Disco is because it's a lot more diverse. A lot of hip hop records talk about what's going on around them and other issues. Disco pretty much stayed in one lane. Also, the people that are involved with hip hop know how to handle criticism better Disco people. After the whole Disco Sucks thing, Disco pretty much went underground & morphed into other genres. Hip Hop has been criticised since the begining and it didn't run away and hide at the first sign of trouble. ummm the disco Movement had all live musicians... Cerrone, Alec Constandinos etc. etc. Finess, Handin' out Beatdowns one punk at a time!!! | |
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Disco was uninspired crap. It was cheap funk. It didn't last because people had sense back then and wanted to push music forward, that and the music industry actually existed to promote and record music. When people say it never left, I agree that techno nonmusic is disco, but to relate legit music to that crap is Lovesexy cover wrong.
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krayzie said: neoretro7 said: I am trying to understand it because Disco had good music but why did it last for 10 years but this gangsta rap hip hop shit (i don't mean all) lasted over 20 years.
[Edited 5/23/08 10:26am] Disco had good music ?
Anyway Gangsta rap didn't last 20 years, gangsta rap slowly died after Biggie and Pac got shot... And I take gangsta rap over Disco crap anyday... [Edited 5/23/08 14:51pm] You wrong. The gangsta style of rap is still alive, no thanks to 50 Cent. | |
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Funk also died. This Ya Boy from that H-Town
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IAintTheOne said: Paris9748430 said: That's not exactly true. If anything, Disco brought about the popularity of drum machines. The reason why hip hop lasted longer than Disco is because it's a lot more diverse. A lot of hip hop records talk about what's going on around them and other issues. Disco pretty much stayed in one lane. Also, the people that are involved with hip hop know how to handle criticism better Disco people. After the whole Disco Sucks thing, Disco pretty much went underground & morphed into other genres. Hip Hop has been criticised since the begining and it didn't run away and hide at the first sign of trouble. ummm the disco Movement had all live musicians... Cerrone, Alec Constandinos etc. etc. Really??? 'Cause I think Donna Summer's I Feel Love disagrees with you!!! JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!! |
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PFunkjazz said: elem55 said: All valid points but I would like to add another reason.
Rap is a very easy art form for any one to do which makes it very attractive. Everybody and their momma is a rapper. Disco was usually done with live instruments which means that you would actually have to know how to play. Add to this the affordable home studio and your in business. This is it in a nutshel. The DIY approach makes any rapist, thug or hoodrat a musical genius. What elem55 said in bold is very false. If everyone on earth can rap, when why in the hell most of us in the org (especially myself) aren't celebrities yet?!? [Edited 5/23/08 21:49pm] | |
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LittleBLUECorvette said: Funk also died.
According to Vainandy, Whitney Houston is the blame for the first degree murder of The Funk. | |
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TonyVanDam said: What elem55 said in bold is very false. If everyone on earth can rap, when why in the hell most of us in the org (especially myself) aren't celebrities yet?!?
Um cuz erbody can't be on top, don't you listen to your auntie Prince? Plus success/celebrity is manufactured in the industry and whether or not a company chooses to do that with someone depends on their look, story, what people are responding to at that moment, and how people respond when they test someone out. Any douche can rap, but it takes a special douche to rap AND sell vitamin water. | |
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krayzie said: neoretro7 said: I am trying to understand it because Disco had good music but why did it last for 10 years but this gangsta rap hip hop shit (i don't mean all) lasted over 20 years.
[Edited 5/23/08 10:26am] Disco had good music ?
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Dance said: TonyVanDam said: What elem55 said in bold is very false. If everyone on earth can rap, when why in the hell most of us in the org (especially myself) aren't celebrities yet?!?
Um cuz erbody can't be on top, don't you listen to your auntie Prince? Plus success/celebrity is manufactured in the industry and whether or not a company chooses to do that with someone depends on their look, story, what people are responding to at that moment, and how people respond when they test someone out. Any douche can rap, but it takes a special douche to rap AND sell vitamin water. If anyone knows about being a special kind of douche... JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!! |
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Rap might have been around for over 20 years but it didnt start to take over everything untill sometime in the 2000's. I think in the 90's there was a good balance between all kinds of genres and it wasn't untill Eminem came along that I noticed a drastic change. So hopefully the rap domination will die out before the decade is over making it the same amount of time of misery as disco (well for the people of the time. I love disco) | |
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Dance said: TonyVanDam said: What elem55 said in bold is very false. If everyone on earth can rap, when why in the hell most of us in the org (especially myself) aren't celebrities yet?!?
Um cuz erbody can't be on top, don't you listen to your auntie Prince? Plus success/celebrity is manufactured in the industry and whether or not a company chooses to do that with someone depends on their look, story, what people are responding to at that moment, and how people respond when they test someone out. Any douche can rap, but it takes a special douche to rap AND sell vitamin water. IN ORDER WORDS: Rap artists that can more about please their stockbrokers than creating music out of love for music as an art. Basically, those douche bags should all get lynched (as NYOIL would say). [Edited 5/23/08 23:40pm] | |
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hellomoto said: Rap might have been around for over 20 years but it didnt start to take over everything untill sometime in the 2000's. I think in the 90's there was a good balance between all kinds of genres and it wasn't untill Eminem came along that I noticed a drastic change. So hopefully the rap domination will die out before the decade is over making it the same amount of time of misery as disco (well for the people of the time. I love disco)
Are you kidding?!? The change was actually right after my favor hip-hop era of 88-93. Beginning in 1994, all of the major labels started to focus more on that one style of rap (gangsta rap) that generated the most profit for them, while all of the other rap styles & subgenres ended up being push aside. Hip-hop culture was never the same after that. | |
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TonyVanDam said: Rap artists that care more about please their stockbrokers than creating music out of love for music as an art.
Basically, those douche bags should all get lynched (as NYOIL would say). [Edited 5/23/08 23:40pm] Shit hop is not art. | |
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Dance said: TonyVanDam said: Rap artists that care more about please their stockbrokers than creating music out of love for music as an art.
Basically, those douche bags should all get lynched (as NYOIL would say). [Edited 5/23/08 23:40pm] Shit hop is not art. But early 80's hip-hop IS art. A track like Planet Rock is still a classic jam.  | |
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TonyVanDam said: hellomoto said: Rap might have been around for over 20 years but it didnt start to take over everything untill sometime in the 2000's. I think in the 90's there was a good balance between all kinds of genres and it wasn't untill Eminem came along that I noticed a drastic change. So hopefully the rap domination will die out before the decade is over making it the same amount of time of misery as disco (well for the people of the time. I love disco)
Are you kidding?!? The change was actually right after my favor hip-hop era of 88-93. Beginning in 1994, all of the major labels started to focus more on that one style of rap (gangsta rap) that generated the most profit for them, while all of the other rap styles & subgenres ended up being push aside. Hip-hop culture was never the same after that. I mean a drastic change in how much hip hop/rap was played, how it started over saturating radio, tv etc. not how the style of rap changed. [Edited 5/24/08 1:07am] | |
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