BartVanHemelen said:

Yet another pointless, uninspired release. A vault full of unreleased material and they release something that is going to be re-released soon anyway.

wow..I agree with Bart..

Uninspired is right on...i really wonder what drives these releases. Sales must be good enough to justify more releases....

All they'd have to do is put a few out takes on a 2nd disc OR remaster the album for me to buy.

LOVE THIS ALBUM.

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price: 50 dollars

lustmealways said:

price: 50 dollars

purplethunder3121 said:

lustmealways said:

price: 50 dollars

Seriously??

$50???
I'll probably only buy the standalone CD version for the cover art but only at bargain bin prices.

embmmusic said:

guys i'm being FACETIOUS it will probably not be FIFTY us dollars, but my point is that i'm sure it will be DRASTICALLY overpriced, realistically i'm thinking 30

lustmealways said:

guys i'm being FACETIOUS it will probably not be FIFTY us dollars, but my point is that i'm sure it will be DRASTICALLY overpriced, realistically i'm thinking 30

It might even get more expensive than that if you don't have a record store in your area or aren't willing to play the survival-of-the-fittest game to get lay hands on a copy. Music distribution failure.

I bought the Crystal Ball long box CD set, including the Truth for $15. I won't be buying this!

I absolutely loathe Record Store Day. Such a fucking hack rip-off scheme.

All the other reissues have been around £35 (example, Planet Earth) on vinyl here in the UK, so I see no reason why this one would be any cheaper. Will probably be more expensive than that due to RSD.. and of course, Prince Tax.

But I will still be buying it. Can't wait to have Prince's entire catalogue on vinyl. Woohoo!

WE LIVE ONCE.

I assume they will not fix the sound of this album, as it is one of the few 90s albums that needs remastering as it is too loud, by Prince's own fault though. Still, I would buy it. I think my mom paid over $40.00 for the set back in the day to get it for me.

leadline said:

I really don't understand why a mod decided to start their own thread and then make it a sticky when there is an existing thread, but such are the ways of the Org: https://prince.org/msg/7/466332

BartVanHemelen said:

Rimshottbob said:

BartVanHemelen said:

I really don't understand why a mod decided to start their own thread and then make it a sticky when there is an existing thread, but such are the ways of the Org: https://prince.org/msg/7/466332

Oh my god who cares, part 2?

lustmealways said:

guys i'm being FACETIOUS it will probably not be FIFTY us dollars, but my point is that i'm sure it will be DRASTICALLY overpriced, realistically i'm thinking 30

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BartVanHemelen said:

Vannormal said:

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You're right, but more profitable ? I doubt that.

Isn't it just too expensive to release that ?

Considdering only a few thousand copies will be sold,

therefor never cover the production costs.

Although I'm not an expert.

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It's a bloody RSD release! They're supposed to be limited anyway! If they'd put out some actually noteworthy stuff instead of some lame vinyl edition of an album any self-respecting Prince fan already owns, they'd sell more copies.

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I think the only time they did something remote interesting was when they released the Versace Experience, but then it was on tape and everyone who wasn't a desperate collector already realised that the damn thing would get an official release later (no way they'd just put out some random tape). And even that thing wasn't that spectacular since it had been on boots. And in the end their release was based on a bloody tape source, not even a professional mastertape!

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Read again: 'considdering only a few thousand copies will be sold.'

And for your information, yes it's a 'bloody RSD release'.

And that's barely ever 'noteworthy stuff'.

Though I'm a vinyl lover, I never was a fan of RSD anyway.

I'm not one of those who collect every fart either.

But this 'The truth' album I personally would like to have on vinyl.

That horrible CB plastic round jewell case with it's only CD version and barely any artwork...

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Vannormal said:

But this 'The truth' album I personally would like to have on vinyl.

That horrible CB plastic round jewell case with it's only CD version and barely any artwork...

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+1. Yes, I'm also really looking forward to get the stand-alone-release of The Truth. I have the Crystal Ball set both in the NPGMC and the retail layout, but I really appreciate The Truth getting its own release.

I also found the vinyl release of One Nite Alone from last year really great. These acoustic sets sound even more intimate on vinyl.

So, yes, of course there is a market for this.

kindofblue said:

So, yes, of course there is a market for this.

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There is a market for plenty of things, but considering that this is the first sign of life from the Estate in over six months (and for now this is still a rumor, though one substantiated by some evidence), the fact that this is things we already have makes it pointless.

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There is a fucking vault. Give us unreleased stuff every four months instead of delivering an unsatisfactory SDE once a year and a bunch of re-releases which only exist because Prince was an incompetent businessman who proved over and over how lucky we were that WBR kept shit in print.

purplethunder3121 said:

Rimshottbob said:

BartVanHemelen said: Oh my god who cares, part 2?

BartVanHemelen said:

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There is a market for plenty of things, but considering that this is the first sign of life from the Estate in over six months (and for now this is still a rumor, though one substantiated by some evidence), the fact that this is things we already have makes it pointless.

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There is a fucking vault. Give us unreleased stuff every four months instead of delivering an unsatisfactory SDE once a year and a bunch of re-releases which only exist because Prince was an incompetent businessman who proved over and over how lucky we were that WBR kept shit in print.

when he's right he's right

for what it's worth, i don't see the value from a purely economical way in blowing your unreleased album load on RSD, so even i went in not expecting it to be some outtakes release since i think that type of thing in their eyes is better suited to a full blown release with proper promotion instead of just rsd. i guess the one exception here would be the stuff like Dream Factory, Camille, CB 86', etc, where "most of the material is already released" (this is in quotation marks because the estate doesn't seem to understand or respect the fact that differing mixes were slated to appear on these projects compared to what was released on the SOTT SDE or compared to what Prince released in his lifetime. it's quite frankly still a slap in the face for them to have gone around toting these album configs during the lead up to SOTT SDE when in reality there were untold amounts of versions and mixes still absent, but that's neither here nor there)

BUT, that being said, I think a live release would have been the smartest decision. they're sitting on more live tapes than they will ever, ever, ever be able to use. find a killer show, of which there are many, and give it a quick release... think a 93-95 aftershow or something like that. this would've not only served the purpose of exciting hardcore fans with something new, but it also would've brought more casual fans into the fold of his live canon should they want to pick it up on RSD... i'd also reckon that it'd sell more copies PERIOD than The Truth will. this really isn't hard, i don't know why they make it so hard

that is all

Guess I'll hang on to factory pressed live boots.

Vannormal said:

BartVanHemelen said:

kindofblue said:

So, yes, of course there is a market for this.

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There is a market for plenty of things, but considering that this is the first sign of life from the Estate in over six months (and for now this is still a rumor, though one substantiated by some evidence), the fact that this is things we already have makes it pointless.

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There is a fucking vault. Give us unreleased stuff every four months instead of delivering an unsatisfactory SDE once a year and a bunch of re-releases which only exist because Prince was an incompetent businessman who proved over and over how lucky we were that WBR kept shit in print.

Bart, it was you that pointed out many a time in the past that Sony only has the rights to re-release stuff that was already released from the Emancipation era up to Prince's passing. So it should not come as a surprise that Sony executes the rights they have obtained by the Estate. As they have done with wonderful vinyl re-issues in the past.

Sony are not the ones that are authorized for releases coming from the "fucking vault".

kindofblue said:

Bart, it was you that pointed out many a time in the past that Sony only has the rights to re-release stuff that was already released from the Emancipation era up to Prince's passing. So it should not come as a surprise that Sony executes the rights they have obtained by the Estate. As they have done with wonderful vinyl re-issues in the past.

Sony are not the ones that are authorized for releases coming from the "fucking vault".

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I know this is a wild idea but -- hear me out, just imagine this -- how about WARNERS would do an RSD release? An actual worthwhile one, not a "hey here's a facsimile of the utterly pointless original UK vinyl release of 1999 WITH LESSS SONGS".

BartVanHemelen said:

kindofblue said:

So, yes, of course there is a market for this.

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There is a market for plenty of things, but considering that this is the first sign of life from the Estate in over six months (and for now this is still a rumor, though one substantiated by some evidence), the fact that this is things we already have makes it pointless.

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There is a fucking vault. Give us unreleased stuff every four months instead of delivering an unsatisfactory SDE once a year and a bunch of re-releases which only exist because Prince was an incompetent businessman who proved over and over how lucky we were that WBR kept shit in print.

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And with that I have to fully agree.

Every word of it.

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Mind you there are a lot of fans who would love to have every live show t be officialy released...

for which i couldn't care less.

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Oh yeah there's one or two : 'Het Paard Van Troje', untouched, unchanged but remastered.

That i'd like. And the Rolling Stones support act show in pristine quality; shows that are relevant in his oeuvre.

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