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Reply #120 posted 02/08/06 2:39pm

MarcelJ

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USA Today Pop Candy writer gets "all tingly" about Black Sweat!

http://blogs.usatoday.com...ears_.html
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Reply #121 posted 02/08/06 2:41pm

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Universaluv said:

livewire said:

Can anybody think of a reason that the singles are still not up on iTunes, etc? What could possibly be the hold up? The issue must be on Universal's end, right?

Peace, David


This is pure speculation, but when Te Amo was released everywhere before it was released on NPGMC there was all kind of hell over there about "why wasn't it released first here!!!!!"

Maybe with this single NPGMC got a brief window of offering it before it gets to itunes.



Yeah , I suspect Black Sweat/Beautiful Loved & Blessed will hit itunes next Tuesday. I think the Prince camp wanted a week of an "exclusive" which its not really beacuase its available at Napster and other small places.

But itunes is the big daddy of digital sales and has a big influence on the Billboard charts. It will be there in a week at the latest.


They did the same with S.S.T and I think meant to do the same with Te Amo.
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Reply #122 posted 02/08/06 3:05pm

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How do Universal go about convincing the radio stations to paly Black Sweat?

Do they heavy them, bribe them, beg or what?

How does it work?
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Reply #123 posted 02/08/06 3:20pm

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goat2004 said:


BLACK SWEAT- Prince

Top 40/ Mainstream : #205 (20 spins)
Leaders:
KSMY Santa Rosa , CA ( 6 spins)


Well , after day 1 to radio , noone seems to be knocking down the door to play Black Sweat . But its way early.


It is early, especially when Madonna's "Sorry" started at #180 last week and it's headed for top 5.
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Reply #124 posted 02/08/06 3:21pm

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bkw said:

How do Universal go about convincing the radio stations to paly Black Sweat? Do they heavy them, bribe them, beg or what? How does it work?


Judging by recent news reports, in the previous few years they would have offered station program directors expensive vacations, iPods, laptops and sundry other bribes to get their artists played. But with the N.Y. Attorney General's campaign against modern-day payola, I'm guessing everything's changed. Maybe they just have to leverage favors. ("We'll set you up with a market exclusive interview with Hot Artist X if you play this record from Artist Y," and so forth.) It actually makes Uni's job tougher, I'll bet. They could have just bought Prince a hit if they wanted one bad enough in the past.

Peace, David
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Reply #125 posted 02/08/06 7:32pm

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livewire said:

bkw said:

How do Universal go about convincing the radio stations to paly Black Sweat? Do they heavy them, bribe them, beg or what? How does it work?


Judging by recent news reports, in the previous few years they would have offered station program directors expensive vacations, iPods, laptops and sundry other bribes to get their artists played. But with the N.Y. Attorney General's campaign against modern-day payola, I'm guessing everything's changed. Maybe they just have to leverage favors. ("We'll set you up with a market exclusive interview with Hot Artist X if you play this record from Artist Y," and so forth.) It actually makes Uni's job tougher, I'll bet. They could have just bought Prince a hit if they wanted one bad enough in the past.

Peace, David

I thought things had changed. Thanks David! biggrin
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Reply #126 posted 02/08/06 7:45pm

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livewire said:

Can anybody think of a reason that the singles are still not up on iTunes, etc? What could possibly be the hold up? The issue must be on Universal's end, right?

Peace, David


David you in DC? If that AVatar is your picture I thinkI've seen you at the Lovesexy parties
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Reply #127 posted 02/08/06 7:58pm

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At around 10:30 PM on Monday night (02/06), I did a search on iTunes for 'Prince'. Black Sweat was not listed. I then did a search for 'Black Sweat'. It returned a number of results, 2 of which were 'Black Sweat' and 'Beautiful, Loved, and Blessed' by Prince. I listened to the 30 second snippets of both songs, and then tried to buy them. The store would not allow me to buy them at that time.

By the time I searched for them on Tuesday, the songs didn't show up at all.

So, as far as I'm concerned, the songs were about to become available for purchase - and something happened.

I wonder what went wrong? Did Prince demand 1 week at NPGMC prior to iTunes? If so, I think that was a bad decision in this case. Coming off of SNL, having a new single & video on iTunes the following Tuesday would have been huge.

Of course, I think he should've done 'Black Sweat' as his second song on SNL, so what do I know?

I just feel like 3121 could be his biggest album since D&P, (not that it would affect how I feel about the music - but it seems like Prince wants this, too), and it makes me scratch my head when this kind of stuff starts happening again with the promotion of the new material..
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Reply #128 posted 02/08/06 8:45pm

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Alexandernvrmind said:

David you in DC? If that AVatar is your picture I thinkI've seen you at the Lovesexy parties


Yep, that's me, but I'm in Charlotte, N.C., and I've never had the pleasure of attending the Lovesexy parties...although I know a few regulars who tell me they're off the hook!

Peace, David
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Reply #129 posted 02/09/06 5:32am

MikeMatronik

The new song hasn't been played in my country (Portugal)! The only song that gets airplay here is Diamonds & Pearls
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Reply #130 posted 02/09/06 6:51am

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Radio and Records - Week Ending Feb 10 , 2006



BLACK SWEAT # 1 Most Added on Top 40 -Rhythmic

http://www.radioandrecord..._Chart.asp


Black Sweat # 5 Most Added on Urban Mainstream

http://www.radioandrecord..._chart.asp

Beautiful Loved & Blessed - #2 Most Added on Urban AC

http://www.radioandrecord..._chart.asp
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Reply #131 posted 02/09/06 8:14am

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Great stuff. I hope Universal keeps pushing and pushing this single to radio and ALL video outlets. Hopefully, Black Sweat will be sold on iTunes next week. We have to be patient. pray
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Reply #132 posted 02/09/06 10:46am

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i'm struggling to ascertain public perception of this song really. we're getting a couple of reports of DJs playing it then insulting it. at first airplay wasn't 'amazing' yet now a week after its debut its the number one added song on one format and in the top5 for another. on the org it seems most are in favour which is a good sign. we'll see, looking positive for both songs, be amazing if they both ended up in the top100 - wonder when the last time prince has two songs in the hot100 was!
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Reply #133 posted 02/09/06 11:00am

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softandwet said:

i'm struggling to ascertain public perception of this song really. we're getting a couple of reports of DJs playing it then insulting it. at first airplay wasn't 'amazing' yet now a week after its debut its the number one added song on one format and in the top5 for another. on the org it seems most are in favour which is a good sign. we'll see, looking positive for both songs, be amazing if they both ended up in the top100 - wonder when the last time prince has two songs in the hot100 was!



I think its the case of a good number of stations adding it and testing it out playing it a couple times right now. While Black Sweat's spin total is not that impressive yet, I was suprised to see how many stations have actually added it to their playlist. Lets hope they play it more now.
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Reply #134 posted 02/09/06 11:36am

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The video is now playing on the main page of umrg.com also.
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Reply #135 posted 02/09/06 1:57pm

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Here are some Mainstream Urban outlets playing the song thru 2/8.

WDKX-FM Rochester Mainstream Urban 9 spins
KMJJ-FM Shreveport Mainstream Urban 9
KTCX-FM Beaumont Mainstream Urban 5
BET-TV * VideoTV Mainstream Urban 2
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Reply #136 posted 02/09/06 2:52pm

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softandwet said:

wonder when the last time prince has two songs in the hot100 was!


August 27, 1994. "Letitgo" was number 38 that week and "The Most Beautiful Girl In The World" was at number 49 in its 26th and final week on the chart.

On the R&B charts, "Musicology" and "Call My Name" shared a few weeks together in 2004.

I mean, since you asked and all... geek
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Reply #137 posted 02/09/06 3:34pm

siriusfunk

Sirius Plays Black Sweat on Heart & Soul.

http://itson.siriusbackst...mit=Search
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Reply #138 posted 02/10/06 11:51am

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Black Sweat is making some moves at both Mainstream Urban and Mainstream Hit radio.

On Mainstream Hit, I couldn't get much station data
LW TW
277 193

On Mainstream Urban Feb 3-9

Station Market Format Spins
KMJJ-FM Shreveport Mainstream Urban 9
KTCX-FM Beaumont Mainstream Urban 7
WJMI-FM Jackson Mainstream Urban 3
WJTT-FM Chattanooga Mainstream Urban 2
WTMG-FM Gainesville Mainstream Urban 2
KRRQ-FM Lafayette, LA Mainstream Urban 2
X067-FM *XM Radio Mainstream Urban 2
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Reply #139 posted 02/10/06 12:07pm

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MarcelJ said:

Black Sweat is making some moves at both Mainstream Urban and Mainstream Hit radio.

On Mainstream Hit, I couldn't get much station data
LW TW
277 193

On Mainstream Urban Feb 3-9

Station Market Format Spins
KMJJ-FM Shreveport Mainstream Urban 9
KTCX-FM Beaumont Mainstream Urban 7
WJMI-FM Jackson Mainstream Urban 3
WJTT-FM Chattanooga Mainstream Urban 2
WTMG-FM Gainesville Mainstream Urban 2
KRRQ-FM Lafayette, LA Mainstream Urban 2
X067-FM *XM Radio Mainstream Urban 2


For Mainstream Urban it's playing mainly in the South, interesting.


Moved up considerably in the Mainstream Urban Charts

LW TW
964 188
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Reply #140 posted 02/11/06 2:43am

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Here are more stations picking up Black Sweat, this time in Ryhthmic format.

KDDB-FM Honolulu Rhythmic Hit 12
KBMB-FM Sacramento Rhythmic Hit 5
KKWD-FM Oklahoma City Rhythmic Hit 4
KDON-FM Monterey/SalinasRhythmic Hit 4
KMEL-FM San Francisco Rhythmic Hit 3
WRDW-FM Philadelphia Rhythmic Hit 3
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Reply #141 posted 02/11/06 9:56am

gavki

Just heard Black Sweat on Kiss 100 in London.

Prince is back!
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Reply #142 posted 02/11/06 10:41am

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On Mainstream Hit radio BS has climbed a bit the last few days.

Feb 8 #205
Feb 9 #193
Feb 10 #177
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Reply #143 posted 02/11/06 1:27pm

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Black Sweat is featured on the main page of AOL Music ( http://music.aol.com/ )
and currently nr. 1 video on vh1.com and nr. 5 on mtv.com

Not bad, i think....
Linus
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Reply #144 posted 02/11/06 1:45pm

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linus4000 said:

Black Sweat is featured on the main page of AOL Music ( http://music.aol.com/ )
and currently nr. 1 video on vh1.com and nr. 5 on mtv.com

Not bad, i think....
Linus
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Where do you see that it's #5 on mtv.com? I can't find it on the top 20.

http://www.mtv.com/charts...eams.jhtml
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Reply #145 posted 02/11/06 1:57pm

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Go to mtv.com ( mainpage ) and look to the top five videos...
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Reply #146 posted 02/11/06 2:02pm

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I don't know if this has been posted but I talked to a Sam Goody employee about Black Sweat last night.She told me that it would be availible on Feb. 21.
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Reply #147 posted 02/11/06 2:48pm

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linus4000 said:

Go to mtv.com ( mainpage ) and look to the top five videos...


Thanks, I see it now.
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Reply #148 posted 02/11/06 5:28pm

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Yeah, it's on the front page of mtv.com. Great news and now next week will tell us how the video does on the air. I can't wait for that!
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Reply #149 posted 02/12/06 11:20am

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Black Sweat on Mainstream Hit radio chart.

Feb 8 #205
Feb 9 #193
Feb 10 #177
Feb 11 #167

Mainstream Urban radio.

Feb 9 #188
Feb 11 #126

Rhythmic Hit Radio

Feb 11 #184
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