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Reply #180 posted 02/14/06 10:32pm

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CalhounSq said:

I'm trying to read through these 2 main threads on Black Sweat but I can't find the info yet - is the single out or what?

I gotsta bump this shit in my ride immediately! headbang

I know I looked 4 it at Borders, not avaliable yet. Even if I have played the jam out I still want it in real 4mat in all it's gory!
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Reply #181 posted 02/15/06 4:22am

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paisleypark4 said:

CalhounSq said:

I'm trying to read through these 2 main threads on Black Sweat but I can't find the info yet - is the single out or what?

I gotsta bump this shit in my ride immediately! headbang

I know I looked 4 it at Borders, not avaliable yet. Even if I have played the jam out I still want it in real 4mat in all it's gory!


ME 2, 3 & 4!!!!! fit
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Reply #182 posted 02/15/06 6:09am

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Me 5, 6, & 8!!!!!
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Reply #183 posted 02/15/06 6:12am

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i'm watching the video on vh1 RIGHT NOW!
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Reply #184 posted 02/15/06 6:39am

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Shutup it is probably her best album to date.



Shutup?


Did I say it was a bad cd? Haven't I expressed b4 I like this cd? Didn't I say before it came out it was going 2 sell more than her past 3 cd's combined?

Her fans stuck beside her and made sure everyone knew how good of cd it was and that it got played and moved units.

Anyway...guess I will "shutup" and get back on topic to help the Black Sweat/3121 project.
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Reply #185 posted 02/15/06 6:52am

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jseven said:

paisleypark4 said:







Shutup it is probably her best album to date.



Shutup?


Did I say it was a bad cd? Haven't I expressed b4 I like this cd? Didn't I say before it came out it was going 2 sell more than her past 3 cd's combined?

Her fans stuck beside her and made sure everyone knew how good of cd it was and that it got played and moved units.

Anyway...guess I will "shutup" and get back on topic to help the Black Sweat/3121 project.

That right there is what I admire about the Maraih die-hards. They were unified to get "The Emancipation..." to number 1 and they have suceeded. The Prince community is not all that unified and I don't know if we have the same kind of commitment to promote a Prince album the way the Mariah fans have. Look at some of the threads here already. I hope 3121 will be different. We'll see.
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Reply #186 posted 02/15/06 8:40am

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My wife just caught Black Sweat on UK's MTV Base Spanking New! I guess the promotion machine in Europe has just kicked off!!!
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Reply #187 posted 02/15/06 8:42am

Universaluv

CalhounSq said:

paisleypark4 said:


I know I looked 4 it at Borders, not avaliable yet. Even if I have played the jam out I still want it in real 4mat in all it's gory!


ME 2, 3 & 4!!!!! fit


It's available online to download. Not as a physical CD yet.
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Reply #188 posted 02/15/06 9:02am

alandail

purplecam said:

jseven said:




Shutup?


Did I say it was a bad cd? Haven't I expressed b4 I like this cd? Didn't I say before it came out it was going 2 sell more than her past 3 cd's combined?

Her fans stuck beside her and made sure everyone knew how good of cd it was and that it got played and moved units.

Anyway...guess I will "shutup" and get back on topic to help the Black Sweat/3121 project.

That right there is what I admire about the Maraih die-hards. They were unified to get "The Emancipation..." to number 1 and they have suceeded. The Prince community is not all that unified and I don't know if we have the same kind of commitment to promote a Prince album the way the Mariah fans have. Look at some of the threads here already. I hope 3121 will be different. We'll see.


The trouble is, many Prince fans really don't even care if it's a hit or not. There is no doubt that there are enough prince fans around that if they did care, and did rally behind it, they could do the same thing for Prince. If everyone just spend 5 minutes/day requesting Black Sweat on radio stations, they could significantly accelerate airplay.
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Reply #189 posted 02/15/06 9:04am

alandail

Universaluv said:

CalhounSq said:



ME 2, 3 & 4!!!!! fit


It's available online to download. Not as a physical CD yet.


is it available anywhere other than NPGMC? And why isn't it on iTunes yet - it was going up a full 2 weeks ago. First it said "not available in the US" then it disappeared.
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Reply #190 posted 02/15/06 9:07am

tripp

i just want to know when the actual cd single will be availible in the u.s. stores.
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Reply #191 posted 02/15/06 9:14am

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alandail said:

purplecam said:


That right there is what I admire about the Maraih die-hards. They were unified to get "The Emancipation..." to number 1 and they have suceeded. The Prince community is not all that unified and I don't know if we have the same kind of commitment to promote a Prince album the way the Mariah fans have. Look at some of the threads here already. I hope 3121 will be different. We'll see.


The trouble is, many Prince fans really don't even care if it's a hit or not. There is no doubt that there are enough prince fans around that if they did care, and did rally behind it, they could do the same thing for Prince. If everyone just spend 5 minutes/day requesting Black Sweat on radio stations, they could significantly accelerate airplay.

That is the truth. 5 minutes is nothing in a 24 hour day. We need to get behind this album and do all that we can do to support this song and 3121 more than ever before.
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Reply #192 posted 02/15/06 9:26am

Universaluv

alandail said:

Universaluv said:



It's available online to download. Not as a physical CD yet.


is it available anywhere other than NPGMC? And why isn't it on iTunes yet - it was going up a full 2 weeks ago. First it said "not available in the US" then it disappeared.


There's other sites, buymusic, aol, etc..no itunes yet. I could speculate that the NPGMC wanted a period to offer it to its members before it hit a major venue like itunes. But that's just speculation.
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Reply #193 posted 02/15/06 10:19am

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Reply #194 posted 02/15/06 10:53am

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"Beautiful Loved & Blessed" Larger Radio Audience than "Black Sweat "

02.15.06 Mediabase Airplay Charts

Black Sweat:
Top 40 Mainstream- #143 , 45 spins, Audience: .039mil
Top 40 Rhythmic- #115, 126 spins, audience: .490mil
Urban Mainstream- #97, 127 spins, auidence: .481mil

Total Black Sweat : 298 spins, audience 1.01million

Beautiful, Loved & Blessed:
Urban AC - #30 , 201 spins, audience: 1.707 mil
Urban Mainstream : #393, 14 spins , auduence : .039 mil

Total Beautiful Loved & Blessed : 215 spins, audience 1.746 million


Thanks to WBLS in New York City for playing BL&B that song's audience is higher than Black Sweat's. Looking into the numbers a lot of BS hits are coming in small makets in overnight hours. http://www.mmr247.com/mmr...e=PRINBS++
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Reply #195 posted 02/15/06 11:19am

goat2004

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And this was B4 the reviewer heard Fury! lol
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Reply #196 posted 02/15/06 1:37pm

wavesofbliss

this may be of interest.

a discussion of 'black sweat' on the Lamaq Roundtable

http://www.bbc.co.uk/6mus...0210.shtml
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Reply #197 posted 02/15/06 3:12pm

softandwet

wavesofbliss said:[quote]this may be of interest.

a discussion of 'black sweat' on the Lamaq Roundtable



interesting, one guy gives it a 10 out of 10 saying its amazing, a woman is disappointed saying she preferes his 'early' stuff like girls and boys, and another guy complains it sounds like something he was working on before he wrote kiss. and lamaq points out the conflict between doing something new and playing to your strengths.

its annoying cos they point out a couple of other peoples opinions and they're all saying 'sounds like every other prince song'. now i'm not saying it is or it isn't, but when prince did something different at almost any other stage of his career he's dropped fans like a stone. dirty mind, around the world, lovesexy, come, the rainbow children. its not like any of these people are saying 'hey it sounds like 'hit' prince, i prefer x'.

i'd just guess that they don't really know anything not on a very best of album and therefore all prince songs are about sex and purple. its quite frustrating but the fact that the guy on there who loved it went 'Jesus Christ!' when Dave Gorman gave it a 4 was hilarious.
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Reply #198 posted 02/15/06 4:17pm

jseven

Video Spins 4 02/15/06*

Black Sweat VH1 spins: 2

(Increase of 1 spin per day)



Black Sweat MTV Spins: 3


MTV added it to it's "Spankin' New" segment.

Total since video debuted on 2/13/06:

Black Sweat VH1 Spins: 4

Black Sweat MTV Spins: 10**


(*This is only counting MTV & VH1, the main channels, not MTV Hits or VH1 Soul, just the ones with the most subscribers/viewers, i.e. more impact.)

(**Cinnamon Girl only received 10 spins in total on MTV in 1 month of play. Black Sweat tied it within 3 days.)
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Reply #199 posted 02/16/06 5:57am

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02.16.06 Mediabase Airplay Charts

Black Sweat:
Top 40 Mainstream- #135 , 50 spins, Audience: .042mil
Top 40 Rhythmic- #116, 126 spins, audience: .508mil
Urban Mainstream- #91, 143 spins, auidence: .509mil (*#1 "Taking off"*)
Total Black Sweat : 319 spins, audience 1.059million

Beautiful, Loved & Blessed:
Urban AC - #27 , 210 spins, audience: 1.658 mil (*#1 "Taking off", #5 "Jump"*)
Urban Mainstream : #454, 12 spins , auduence : .028 mil

Total Beautiful Loved & Blessed : 222 spins, audience 1.686 million
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Reply #200 posted 02/16/06 5:59am

wavesofbliss

one guy gives it a 10 out of 10 saying its amazing,


yeah his name is joseph arthur and he's wonderfl and a devoted prince fan.
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Reply #201 posted 02/16/06 4:04pm

jseven

Video Spins 4 02/16/06*

Black Sweat VH1 spins: 2

(Guess VH-1 can see the future; they listed Black Sweat as a Grammy Winner.)



Black Sweat MTV Spins: 4


MTV add 2 "Spankin' New" segment.

Total since video debuted on 2/13/06:

Black Sweat VH1 Spins: 6

Black Sweat MTV Spins: 14**


(*This is only counting MTV & VH1, the main channels, not MTV Hits or VH1 Soul, just the ones with the most subscribers/viewers, i.e. more impact.)

(**Cinnamon Girl only received 10 spins in total on MTV in 1 month of play. Black Sweat surpassed it within 4 days.)
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Reply #202 posted 02/16/06 5:27pm

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MTV is playing this video a lot and that fantastic but why is VH1 not playing it as much? They played Te Amo Corazon like 3 times a day. At least they are playing it and that's part of the battle right there.
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Reply #203 posted 02/16/06 9:05pm

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purplecam said:

MTV is playing this video a lot and that fantastic but why is VH1 not playing it as much? They played Te Amo Corazon like 3 times a day. At least they are playing it and that's part of the battle right there.


Because they need room for all the "Fabulous Life of.." or "The 100 Greatest...Moments" episodes to be played back-to-back-to-back all day every day.

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Reply #204 posted 02/17/06 9:38am

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REVIEW FROM STANFORD
Black Sweat”

Maybe it shouldn’t shock me that a man who once changed his name to a symbol would change something as simple as his views on sex in the media. But I can’t help but be a little astounded that Prince, a card-carrying Jehovah’s Witness who just two years ago complained to Newsweek that “Now there’s all these dirty videos...we’re bombarded,” would so quickly and so gleefully add to that bombardment.

His video for “Black Sweat” consists mostly of a curvaceous model type, alternately clad in latex, lamè, and lingerie, dancing provocatively while Prince attempts to prove that an effeminate, short, 47-year-old singing falsetto can be sexy. Whether or not it’s successful is a matter of personal preference, but it is entertaining to watch him try.

Maybe it’s the illusion of class that black-and-white filming adds, but as T-and-A-centric videos go, this is less crass and more slyly amusing than most. Prince’s reaction to the woman shaking and posing for his benefit can most accurately be described as arch. At one point, he even sips a cup of tea, barely glancing at her gyrations. At another, he reads a magazine and smirks. Maybe he’s resisting temptation. More likely, he’s just playing it cool. With a few embarrassing exceptions (please, Prince, start wearing shirts under your suit coats), he plays the tease well. The video certainly doesn’t break any new ground, but it isn’t trying to. The angular funk of the song, a throwback to some of Prince’s earlier work, calls for a video that is simply sexy and fun, and “Black Sweat” by and large delivers. I’m sure Jehovah, if not all of his witnesses, would approve.

—Lisa J. Bloomberg
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Reply #205 posted 02/17/06 9:45am

Byron

2020 said:

REVIEW FROM STANFORD
Black Sweat”

Maybe it shouldn’t shock me that a man who once changed his name to a symbol would change something as simple as his views on sex in the media. But I can’t help but be a little astounded that Prince, a card-carrying Jehovah’s Witness who just two years ago complained to Newsweek that “Now there’s all these dirty videos...we’re bombarded,” would so quickly and so gleefully add to that bombardment.

His video for “Black Sweat” consists mostly of a curvaceous model type, alternately clad in latex, lamè, and lingerie, dancing provocatively while Prince attempts to prove that an effeminate, short, 47-year-old singing falsetto can be sexy. Whether or not it’s successful is a matter of personal preference, but it is entertaining to watch him try.

Maybe it’s the illusion of class that black-and-white filming adds, but as T-and-A-centric videos go, this is less crass and more slyly amusing than most. Prince’s reaction to the woman shaking and posing for his benefit can most accurately be described as arch. At one point, he even sips a cup of tea, barely glancing at her gyrations. At another, he reads a magazine and smirks. Maybe he’s resisting temptation. More likely, he’s just playing it cool. With a few embarrassing exceptions (please, Prince, start wearing shirts under your suit coats), he plays the tease well. The video certainly doesn’t break any new ground, but it isn’t trying to. The angular funk of the song, a throwback to some of Prince’s earlier work, calls for a video that is simply sexy and fun, and “Black Sweat” by and large delivers. I’m sure Jehovah, if not all of his witnesses, would approve.

—Lisa J. Bloomberg

She wears lingerie in the video??...Or did the writer just run out of clothing that begins with the letter "L"??... lol
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Reply #206 posted 02/17/06 10:48am

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they just played it on radio 1
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Reply #207 posted 02/17/06 2:25pm

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they just played it on radio 1


yeah, cool. I just heard it too - on the Pete Tong dance show which is V credible. first time i've heard new P material on Radio1 in years - probably since TMBGITW.

I think this is a positive sign for 3121 over here...
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Reply #208 posted 02/17/06 2:53pm

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BS has reached Denmark as well - I´ve heard it a couple of times on the biggest radiostation - and they are giving it good credit every time...And I agree
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