Ever since the influx of this hip hop crap into modern music, Prince music has declined. Now he is sounding like the Neptunes, and making R Kelly songs.

workingupahiyellasweat said:

What R. Kelly-ish songs has P made in your opinion?
The Neptunes entire sound is based on P.

To this I'll say 'yes', I can see where you're coming from.

These threads get bogged down in semantics. I don't think Prince is any different to any other artist of the past though. It's our turn to see Prince become an artist the media knows from their best of release and through the reference from younger acts.

Be thankful we have Prince still mentioned, imagine how crappy the generation who have Usher and Beyonce as influences will be.

workingupahiyellasweat said:

"black music"? "hip hop crap"? I am going to attempt to leap over you obvious and glaring bias and disagree with you.

1. People have been talking about how "prince has fallen off" since 1985. Everyone is entitled to their opinion; but the fact remains, he is still around and doing VERY WELL for being in the game for damn near 30 years.

2. Neptunes and R. Kelly make try to make Prince songs-get your music history right. That's like saying that James Brown is copying Prince's "sexy mf", "the work" and "prettyman".

3. Again, you are entitled to your opinion, but I think your claim is weak at best and that you have no support to back it up.

NouveauDance said:

oh lawd...and they'll have to listen to all this stuff at the nursing home when they get older, too.

no, princes need to conform and be mainstream killed prince

Moonwalkbjrain said:

Prince is dead. Long live Prince!

workingupahiyellasweat said:

imo, you have it backwards it's r.kelly and the neptunes who are trying to sound like prince. An they say they are.


and in your opinion they're making crapping music.

workingupahiyellasweat said:

Going by your logic, Joni Mitchell is an Ani DiFranco copycat.

Is Andre hip hop? He is the jelly, to be honest.

workingupahiyellasweat said:

I totally agree with this. Why is Prince trying to sound anything other than Prince ????

For years I blamed Lenny Kravitz. He was like Prince's cool, good looking friend with all the girls after him. And Prince thought "Hmmm...I'm gonna jam like Lenny. All I need is a really loud guitar, a strut and a scowl and I'll have ALL the girls after me"

At the time I was really annoyed because Prince was the guy who taught me that the only person I should ever be in my life was myself. With lyrics like "DO I believe in God, DO I believe in me"

And then it occured to me that maybe Prince didn't have the self-confidence that I thought he had. Maybe he was just trying to get by in life along with everybody else. That's when I realised that I couldn't put any expectations on him.

We look on him as like a leader and a guru, because when he's great he's like religion. We think he has this talent at his finger tips or something. But I suppose he doesn't always have the answers, just like the rest of us mere mortals.

he started looping his drums
and adding rappers and DJS
that DJ crap almost ruined C Note
and look he is at it again
trying to pander to this modern generation
can we get an album with out any rapping, and drum loops
and no I hear on 3121 he even has a reggathon breakdown
GEEZ
It was bad enough hearing him do it during the Musicology tour
I was shocked we did not hear a rapper on NEWS, hell he even rapped on TRC

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Perhaps, but who shot JR????

It's not that serious guys....

Mod music & Hippity Hop didn't kill him.
It shot him in the hip.
Now he can't dance.

I agree with you to a certain degree.
I should imagine that changing his name to an unpronouncable symbol didnt help the cause much either.
He probably lost a lot of his more casual fans when he did that.

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

Hip-hop will become synonymous with hip-op.



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Neptunes copied Prince, not the other way round.

Prince has never sounded crap like R.Kelly.

kanamit said:

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You got it.

Amen dammitt!!

Oh lord, I don't see how it could get any worse. The instruments are already stripped out of the music. If they strip it down any more, it will be acapella.

workingupahiyellasweat said:

If anything white gate keepers are responsible for the decline in Black music obsessed w/ a quick buck from a dumbed down public.

Prince started listening to other people instead of himself, that's that happened.

So everything disappeared; instead of sexual ambiguity, racial ambiguity, we got "let a woman be a woman, let a man be a man" and "black sweat".

And just as he made the black album to prove something to other people, first time he ever did that, he started rapping to try and remain relevant, made music with house beats to try and remain relevant, &c.

Didn't work, so now it's "support real musicians, don't use loops". Was good enough for him while he was trying to be rapper, though!

But still, now it's R'n'B, to try and remain relevant. Prince will continue to sound like second-hand rubbish until he listens to himself rather than those around him. It's where *every* musician meets his/her end.

jtfolden said:

JonnyApplesauce said:

Oh, you're just saying that because the crusty old Empire took over your gas mines...

Hip hop as we know it today "commercially" is indeed hurting R&B music...But I take issue with those on this site who have no idea of the diverse history and groundbreaking music that has been released over the years by the hip-hop artists..Such a sweeping indictment of hip-hop is comparble to blaming The Supremes for the sins of the Pussycat Dolls...If we are going to talk about the current state of black music, I believe we should at least inject some knowledgeable opinions on its various genres...

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