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LM-1





LinnDrum (LM-2)

magnificentsynthesizer667 said:

Hey! A Linn Avatar! !

YOu beat me to it!

Is that yours? Are you an owner?

FlyingCloudPassenger said:

(little kid voice) i wanna push all th' buttons!!!

FlyingCloudPassenger said:

I wish I had one of those things , I don't think there are too many still in existence. I'm sure prince owns about ten of these things, and he's probably got them sitting in storage collecting dust somewhere.

I own a LinnDrum. The "kuh
sound is the "stick". what sucks is of you mess with tuning of it also effects the tuning of the snare. i agree what someone posted earlier: Any sampling software out there has yet to capture the essence of the Linn. I remember at the first Celebration they had the Lm-1 on display. I started programming some stuff, & Takumi said to me: "u know how to use this anchor???" it was funny.


Most important Linn sound is the "stick" sound. I play in a artsy rock band and we often are compared to the Velvet Underground & other noisey avant-garde free jazz inspired bands. But whats funny is when my Keyboardist starts grooving with bassplayer with her Juno, & I play some funk with Boss Flanger effect-with my drummer using to trigger hitting Claps & sticks...people are puzzled. I love it-a hundred art kids not knowing I am selling the revolution sound. I'd die without my Linn


Nero

neronava said:

Cool stories! That's what I'm planning and moving towards, a Roland V-Drum Pro setup with two Simmons pads for the CLAP and the Rimshots! There's a new Roland SPD-S that samples anything you input via the line input then you can go to twon on the 9 pads!...hooo boy, can't wait for that!

I may use my Laptop to trigger some sounds as well via MIDI, but the sampler module is better. I know, it won't capture the essense but that's the drum machine, if you got the machine, then it's pretty much like capturing the processed sounds and maybe make some new ones up!

Right! The LM-2 (see above) is kind of a common drum machine, they made more of those.

The sucky thing, although some sounds are classic and just as Funky, is that once you tune the snare, the rimshot, the kick or something else gets tuned! Way back I played with one and realized, no this isn't THE Prince drum machine, it's got to be another. Did some research and by luck, like it was meant to be...!

Supernova said:

dammit i feel so stoopid. Dam. I know what the kuh sound was NOW!!! Damn. That Gated Stick turned down in motion.. Damn i feel so dumb

Do yall thyink that Prince already got the best beats out of the Linn Drum that any1 can capture ever?

paisleypark4 said:

No, I do think he stretched it, I love the newer sound he came up with for Joey Coco/Camille songs like Good Love and Feel U Up, Housequake and Shockadelica...101!

It's like he reinvented his Funk sound and modernized it but still using a drum machine about 10 years old at the time!

But with todays effects and processors and technology, I think it can achieve new heights. But like let's say a Fender or Les Paul...this particular device should always have that sound...you know? It's a classic. And very much a Prince perfected sound.

But I think people still can stretch it a bit.

FlyingCloudPassenger said:

How fucking cool! Not only owning a Linn Drum machine but hooking it up to an electronic drum kit. I wish I had some money to buy stuff like that! Until then I'll stick to my Linn Drum samples to get as close as possible...

I have a linn drum (LM-1) Myself, this is really the first time I'm happy to read a topic. Finnaly some interesting stuff. This machine is indeed THA BOMB. I'm actually so stupid that I carry it arround for every concert I do.
But the people love it and so do I the sound is Unbeatable. I bring an 808 as well and some other drummachines but this one is my ALL TIME favorite.

Thanx Guys for the NICE topic.

Stijn

STIJNKRISTINE said:

Oh, just orgnoted you! Wow another LM-1 Owner!

But dude, dragging it around, well, I don't know...I wouldn't do that. Use a sampler or something...I know it's not the same but, tune the sounds like you like them and then sample them.I've seen Hammond Organists who drag their huge B-3 around!
[This message was edited Sat Sep 20 11:37:29 PDT 2003 by FlyingCloudPassenger]

funkaholic1972 said:

Actually you can modify the LM-1 as a triggerable unit, but it expensive and complicated, but it can be done, you'd have to have all kinds of holes and switches done.

John Blackwell, triggers a clap with an Roland SPD-20 or 11 percussion pad. BUT it actually is used as a trigger, triggering the clap via MIDI to a sampler somewhere on the stage or at the board. The clap is a processed LM-1 clap. Not exactly a Camille clap, like the one on Girls & Boys, but just as super funky!

You can set something up with various electronics, you just have to be a little clever about it. It's taking me slow because its so expensive, but there's tricks.

FlyingCloudPassenger said:

I have the lm 2

camille2002 said:

Yeah, you need that first one to do Dorothy Parker.

FlyingCloudPassenger said:

camille2002 said:

so there nothing I can do to make a beat that complex on my lm2?

paisleypark4 said:

Nah, it doesn't mean you're dumb, I just thought you knew what you were hearing technically. I know drums, but of course since I didn't know exactly the sound you were describing I had no way of knowing if it was the rimshot or something else you were talking about.

camille2002 said:

It's been a while since I've used an LM-2, but start with tamborine quarterr notes...then add a kick on the ONE...snare on two and for, keep th kick just on the one for now...then the rimshot at "and three" and that would be that rimshot. Then 16th notes on the one ...you just have to listen really carefully. It's tricky.

Hope this helps. Let me if it's confusing. But the tones might be all equally high, and the hihat is way different on the LM-2, it's more glassy than gassy if you know what I mean.



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[This message was edited Sun Sep 21 12:30:33 PDT 2003 by FlyingCloudPassenger]

I don't completely agree that the linn-1 is more "versatile" then the "Linn Drum" (lm-2). I've used both, and own the Lm2. You can really tweak the timing on the lm2, the Lm1 is not that much different.


Nero

neronava said:

Also to expand on my own post-The triggers on Lm2 can be pretty complex if adjust the sensitivity.

Nero

Dragging around is indeed CRAZY,
I just played in Amsterdam last night but again, people love that sound. I need my machine to trigger an MS 20 and more important I have to use the Clock output to trigger the sequencer in my JPX3(roland) and the Arpeggio inside my Poly 61m wich doesnt' have another(midi)way to trigger it.

But still I'm thinking of a way to leave my precious LM1 at home, just need a good solution. I was thinking MPC 2000? Any of you guys have suggestions feel free to mail me.

PS I'd love an LM2 but hard to find in europe.

neronava said:

is there a way to adjust the sensitivity?

neronava said:

Yeah, the timing is probably very good also, I would imagine Roger continuing that feature. But I was talking about the ability to tweak the pitch of each drum sound independently. That you can't do on the LM-2. That's what makes the first one more versetile and in a way, desirable.

The triggers on the LM-2 are great for actually connecting it to a Simmons or other electronic drum pad set! That's a plus. Both are classic great anolog machines!



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[This message was edited Sun Sep 21 12:29:33 PDT 2003 by FlyingCloudPassenger]

Oh, I'm still trying to figure out the Housequake drum sound, you know the one that starts off the sound. It's like a thump.

I think it may be actually a guitar...processed. I love that sound. It was played on a Simmons or something because I've listened closely and it has a sensativity or dynamics to it.


Also, there's another drum sound I haven't discovered yet, the Madhouse clap. Its a cool longer splashier multi-clap sound.

You hear it on recordings after 86 or 87. It's very prominent on Madhouse's 6 and on It, Gonna Be A Beautiful Night, DataBank, Good Love, it's really funky and sounds great with big reverb like on It and, I forget the song number, the Madhouse "Baby Doll House" song!

"Kuwwaaahhh!"



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[This message was edited Sun Sep 21 12:36:45 PDT 2003 by FlyingCloudPassenger]

camille2002 said:

Yeah with a small screwdriver, u can adjust the sensitivty under the inputs.

FlyingCloudPassenger said:

In that sense-Yes it is more versatile, the pitch control is not as good as lm1-less control.

Supernova said:

aiight tigga!