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Printablemeow85 said: Straight people make me giggle.  Ah-Hah! I knew you were gay! | |
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Universaluv said: meow85 said: Straight people make me giggle. Ah-Hah! I knew you were gay! Nope. Bi. Start paying attention, there'll be a quiz later.  "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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meow85 said: Universaluv said: Ah-Hah! I knew you were gay! Nope. Bi. Start paying attention, there'll be a quiz later. So, the correct answer is all of the above. | |
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vainandy said: laurarichardson said:
I think your so busy pushing some sort of agenda that you can't fanthom an attack by the media on black male sexuality. I really wish I could take you to the black gay club in my area and just let you hang out in the parking lot to see what type of black men cruise and circle around the club in cars and secretly pick up men. They are not the sissies by no means. The sissies are all inside the club. You would be in absolute shock. I've taken a many a woman to the club so they can see "yes a man just like yours is capable of it". ----- I am not living in a fantasy world. I am well aware of the down-low situation. As a black woman I am well aware of what some brothers are during in prison. I also know brothers who are straight but, in the work place people assume they are gay just because they are smart, well educated and do not conduct themselves in a thug like manner. It is almost as if socitey cannot accept a black man who does not fit the thug sterotype that is out there. Therefore, he must be gay. I know a dozen really great guys who found out their co-workers and associates just assumed that were gay. | |
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meow85 said: DorothyParkerWasCool said: I heard about this a while back no big whoop hell monogamy is a social construct anyway. If they are both cool with it there really should be no problem. Another note, who cares if he's gay, bi or any point in between. If he is more power to him. I don't see why everyone is making such a big deal of this. I guess we are all Puritans at heart...
 
The way people are reacting to this, you'd think Will and Jada were violating some intrinsic law of nature or something. It's not human nature to be monogamous. We made the whole damn thing up.
Monogamy, I think, stems from insecurity and mistrust. If people are secure in their love for one another and everyone's playing it safe sexually, there's nothing wrong with an open relationship. I actually find it kind of disturbing when I see people get mad at their mate for even looking at someone else. Just strikes me as pathetic and desperate. Even if you've got a exclusive relationship, it's sad. Just smacks of insecurity. ----- I can't believe your promoting cheating. With all the sexually transmitted going around 
----- Anyway see below. Will explains what he was trying to say and he is right. What was going on in the mind of the reporter who reported this story so ass backwards. ----- According to Will.... I read somewhere that you said you had an open marriage. If that’s true, can I get Jada’s number? I never said that I had an open marriage. What I said is that our relationship is based on 100% truth. That, no matter what, there’s never going to be something that I would say or do that I wouldn’t tell her first. And then the interviewer said, well, what if you were with Eva Mendes and you wanted to … I said, well, I would say to my wife—if that situation presented itself—I would say, “Honey, I want to sleep with Eva Mendes, is that OK?” And, you know, she’d probably say no. But the point was, how can you expect to be successful in a relationship if you’re not telling your partner the 100% truth? The fact that the interviewer could take that in the direction he took it showed me where he is in his relationship, you know? [Edited 12/30/05 7:51am] | |
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RipHer2Shreds said:[quote] laurarichardson said: That much is true. So don't you think there are more gay black men than the ones that are out? Why is it so damn disgraceful to you when others speculate about black men's sexuality? Just because you think being a black gay man is a negative - or even assuming that somebody is a gay black male is a bad thing - doesn't mean it is. You say you aren't homophobic and then make some stupid ass comment like "I could give two shits about what goes on in Gay Culture." Some words speak louder than others. You really aren't as intelligent as you'd like to think you are. I could give two shits about what goes on in Gay Culture. I am not homophobic because I have better things to do with my time.
No, you're not homophobic at all.  And apparently you don't have anything better to do with your time, cuz here the fuck you are!
I know a dead horse when I see one, and you are that. You can have the last word on this one...(LOL) ... [Edited 12/29/05 16:30pm] ----- "And, yes, there is homophobia at the roots of your comments. You may wish to believe otherwise, but it's there. Just as I think the entire culture of the USA has bigoted notions about race, I think the same applies to sexuality. And I mean EVERYONE, some more than others. You seem to think you're so enlightened, but just because light gleams out your pupils after bouncing around that empy head of yours doesn't mean you're enlightened. THAT was facetious (LOL). " ----- I hope you get help with your paranoia.
You don't know me from fucking Adam but, you can tell me how Homophobic I am. I will not try to explain the saying since your still trying to figure out "panties in a bunch" | |
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Universaluv said: meow85 said: Nope. Bi. Start paying attention, there'll be a quiz later. So, the correct answer is all of the above. 
And we've got a winner! "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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laurarichardson said:[quote] meow85 said:
The way people are reacting to this, you'd think Will and Jada were violating some intrinsic law of nature or something. It's not human nature to be monogamous. We made the whole damn thing up.
Monogamy, I think, stems from insecurity and mistrust. If people are secure in their love for one another and everyone's playing it safe sexually, there's nothing wrong with an open relationship. I actually find it kind of disturbing when I see people get mad at their mate for even looking at someone else. Just strikes me as pathetic and desperate. Even if you've got a exclusive relationship, it's sad. Just smacks of insecurity. ----- I can't believe your promoting cheating. With all the sexually transmitted going around
----- I'm not promoting cheating, I'm promoting honesty. Let me clarify: If either partner would murder the other if they knew they were sleeping around, or if there was even the smallest bit of discomfort at the idea, then it is cheating. When both partners know what's going on and are okay with -or even encourage -the idea, it is not cheating. For the record, I've never had an open relationship myself and don't know if I ever will, but I see nothign wrong with other's doing so. [Edited 12/30/05 13:31pm] "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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What a sad day when this happens..
"Will you marry me darling?" "Yes darling" "But is it alright if I fuck other women aswell as you?" "Yes darling" Aaaahhh...and who said romance was dead ?? Shut up already, damn. | |
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laurarichardson said:
I am not living in a fantasy world. I am well aware of the down-low situation. As a black woman I am well aware of what some brothers are during in prison. They aren't just doing it in prison. They are doing it everywhere. I also know brothers who are straight but, in the work place people assume they are gay just because they are smart, well educated and do not conduct themselves in a thug like manner.
It is almost as if socitey cannot accept a black man who does not fit the thug sterotype that is out there. Therefore, he must be gay. I know a dozen really great guys who found out their co-workers and associates just assumed that were gay. See, you misunderstood me altogether. If you go to a black gay club and look for trade (downlow men), you aren't going to find the co-worker in the shirt and tie, you are going to find the hardcore thugs. The thugs are mainly the majority of the ones fooling around. Hell, I wish I could find a professional. Every time I turn a corner, there's a damn thug going...."Pssst...come here". Andy is a four letter word. | |
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meow85 said:[quote] laurarichardson said: meow85 said:
The way people are reacting to this, you'd think Will and Jada were violating some intrinsic law of nature or something. It's not human nature to be monogamous. We made the whole damn thing up.
Monogamy, I think, stems from insecurity and mistrust. If people are secure in their love for one another and everyone's playing it safe sexually, there's nothing wrong with an open relationship. I actually find it kind of disturbing when I see people get mad at their mate for even looking at someone else. Just strikes me as pathetic and desperate. Even if you've got a exclusive relationship, it's sad. Just smacks of insecurity. ----- I can't believe your promoting cheating. With all the sexually transmitted going around
----- I'm not promoting cheating, I'm promoting honesty. Let me clarify: If either partner would murder the other if they knew they were sleeping around, or if there was even the smallest bit of discomfort at the idea, then it is cheating. When both partners know what's going on and are okay with -or even encourage -the idea, it is not cheating. For the record, I've never had an open relationship myself and don't know if I ever will, but I see nothign wrong with other's doing so. [Edited 12/30/05 13:31pm] ----- Well we will just have to agree to disagree. I think violating your wedding vows is wrong. No matter if it is well known to both parties. Why bother to marry. | |
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vainandy said: laurarichardson said:
I am not living in a fantasy world. I am well aware of the down-low situation. As a black woman I am well aware of what some brothers are during in prison. They aren't just doing it in prison. They are doing it everywhere. I also know brothers who are straight but, in the work place people assume they are gay just because they are smart, well educated and do not conduct themselves in a thug like manner.
It is almost as if socitey cannot accept a black man who does not fit the thug sterotype that is out there. Therefore, he must be gay. I know a dozen really great guys who found out their co-workers and associates just assumed that were gay. See, you misunderstood me altogether. If you go to a black gay club and look for trade (downlow men), you aren't going to find the co-worker in the shirt and tie, you are going to find the hardcore thugs. The thugs are mainly the majority of the ones fooling around. Hell, I wish I could find a professional. Every time I turn a corner, there's a damn thug going...."Pssst...come here". ----- Well I think we both misunderstood each other. You sound like a lot of young ladies I know who would like to see less attention from thugs and more attention from professional guys. I was talking about straight black guys who get mistaken for gay men just because they are not thuggish and stupid acting. I kind of think some black male celebrities are getting stuck with the gay label for the same reason. No, I am not homophobic if these people are gay fine but, people still have wives and children and spreading these kinds of rumours is not cool. | |
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pepper7 said: What a sad day when this happens..
"Will you marry me darling?" "Yes darling" "But is it alright if I fuck other women aswell as you?" "Yes darling" Aaaahhh...and who said romance was dead ?? One person's romance is another person's heartburn.  [Edited 1/2/06 17:33pm] "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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laurarichardson said: meow85 said: ----- I can't believe your promoting cheating. With all the sexually transmitted going around
----- I'm not promoting cheating, I'm promoting honesty. Let me clarify: If either partner would murder the other if they knew they were sleeping around, or if there was even the smallest bit of discomfort at the idea, then it is cheating. When both partners know what's going on and are okay with -or even encourage -the idea, it is not cheating. For the record, I've never had an open relationship myself and don't know if I ever will, but I see nothign wrong with other's doing so. [Edited 12/30/05 13:31pm] ----- Well we will just have to agree to disagree. I think violating your wedding vows is wrong. No matter if it is well known to both parties. Why bother to marry. That is a good question, isn't it?  Unless you're fool enough to believe God actually cares about the marriage business -and that's exactly what it is -marriage is nothing more than a piece of paper. Do it if that's what makes you happy, but it's not necessary.
I'm not writing off marriage altogether. It's a lovely idea, and who knows? Sometime in the future I may give it a shot myself. But from what I've seen, far too many people go into the deal without actually being ready, or having some idealized fantasy notions of what marriage is. Just look at the divorce rate. Among a myriad of other reasons, I think it's clear that too many people throw away their lives by falling for romantic ideas of love and togetherness when they really don't have a fucking clue. Love is real, but only if you're prepared to make it work for you. And monogamy is not a prerequisite for everyone. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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laurarichardson said: vainandy said: See, you misunderstood me altogether. If you go to a black gay club and look for trade (downlow men), you aren't going to find the co-worker in the shirt and tie, you are going to find the hardcore thugs. The thugs are mainly the majority of the ones fooling around. Hell, I wish I could find a professional. Every time I turn a corner, there's a damn thug going...."Pssst...come here". ----- Well I think we both misunderstood each other. You sound like a lot of young ladies I know who would like to see less attention from thugs and more attention from professional guys. I was talking about straight black guys who get mistaken for gay men just because they are not thuggish and stupid acting. I kind of think some black male celebrities are getting stuck with the gay label for the same reason. No, I am not homophobic if these people are gay fine but, people still have wives and children and spreading these kinds of rumours is not cool. Um. Laura? Vainandy's no lady. Let me put it this way -he knows more about what he's talking about than most "young ladies" ever will. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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meow85 said: laurarichardson said: ----- Well I think we both misunderstood each other. You sound like a lot of young ladies I know who would like to see less attention from thugs and more attention from professional guys. I was talking about straight black guys who get mistaken for gay men just because they are not thuggish and stupid acting. I kind of think some black male celebrities are getting stuck with the gay label for the same reason. No, I am not homophobic if these people are gay fine but, people still have wives and children and spreading these kinds of rumours is not cool. Um. Laura? Vainandy's no lady. Let me put it this way -he knows more about what he's talking about than most "young ladies" ever will. ----- I know he is not a young lady but I don't know any guys dealing with his situation so I am comparing him young woman who are dealing with his situation. He case you did not know a lot of young black woman are dying as a result of the downlow situation. | |
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meow85 said: laurarichardson said: ----- Well we will just have to agree to disagree. I think violating your wedding vows is wrong. No matter if it is well known to both parties. Why bother to marry. That is a good question, isn't it? Unless you're fool enough to believe God actually cares about the marriage business -and that's exactly what it is -marriage is nothing more than a piece of paper. Do it if that's what makes you happy, but it's not necessary.
I'm not writing off marriage altogether. It's a lovely idea, and who knows? Sometime in the future I may give it a shot myself. But from what I've seen, far too many people go into the deal without actually being ready, or having some idealized fantasy notions of what marriage is. Just look at the divorce rate. Among a myriad of other reasons, I think it's clear that too many people throw away their lives by falling for romantic ideas of love and togetherness when they really don't have a fucking clue. Love is real, but only if you're prepared to make it work for you. And monogamy is not a prerequisite for everyone. ----- What does the God business have to do with marriage. What about your commitment to another person. What about saying in front of the entire world this is the person I want to be with for the rest of my life. We don't live in a society were people are forced to get married. Therefore, if your not ready don't do it and if you want out get a divorce but don't stomp on your spouse by having an affair or going on about an open marriage. I have been married for 5 years so I do know what I am talking about it. | |
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laurarichardson said: meow85 said: Um. Laura? Vainandy's no lady. Let me put it this way -he knows more about what he's talking about than most "young ladies" ever will. ----- I know he is not a young lady but I don't know any guys dealing with his situation so I am comparing him young woman who are dealing with his situation. He case you did not know a lot of young black woman are dying as a result of the downlow situation. Lots of people, period, are dying b/c of closet cases and others who can't or won't admit what they really are. You can thank the culture of homophobia and heterosexism that exists here for that. If people weren't so convinced that being gay or bisexual is something to be ashamed of and that they had to play at being straight to be accepted, there wouldn't be a problem in any community. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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laurarichardson said: What does the God business have to do with marriage. What about your commitment to another person. What about saying in front of the entire world this is the person I want to be with for the rest of my life. What about your commitment? Not all marriage vows include the promise to be faithful. It is neither cheating nor disrespectful if both partners are aware of and approve of what's going on. Monogamy is not a prerequisite for a succesful relationship. What works for some, might not work for others, and vice versa. We don't live in a society were people are forced to get married. Therefore, if your not ready don't do it and if you want out get a divorce but don't stomp on your spouse by having an affair or going on about an open marriage.
Why get married if it's an open relationship? Because a marriage is an emotional and mental partnership. The most important aspect in any marriage, open or not, is trust and love. If the couple trusts and loves one another it's a marriage, IMO -even if it's open or even if the couple were never legally "married". I'm not talking about anyone having affairs. That IS disrespectful and dishonest. That IS cheating, since obviously one of the partners is kept in the dark because they'd be upset or hurt by it. I don't know how I can make it clear to you that an open marriage is not disrespectful if both partners are all for it. I fail to see how you think shared consent equals disrespect. I have been married for 5 years so I do know what I am talking about it. So that makes you an expert an every relationship in the world, then? "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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missfee said: yep this is old, i heard this a while back....and while i can understand why they have an open marriage, it is also very disappointing, because you are telling me (my husband) that "i love you with all my heart, and no one will be in my heart but you, but do you mind if i stick my dick into some other women's pussy because....i just need to do it and she's hot.." My response would be "HELL TO THE NAW"
I agree with every single word of this post.and if you need to do all that shit, then you need to stay single. While in a commitment with someone, i'll be damned before i have to "share" my man with the other women that he sees fit to fuck. i'm sorry but that's just foolish.... | |
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RipHer2Shreds said: laurarichardson said: ----- Can some explain why they think Will is gay? WTF has this brother done to have the Gayblade title put on him. Yes, please explain. It really bothers laurarichardson when somebody thinks that somebody else might be gay.  | |
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DorothyParkerWasCool said: I heard about this a while back no big whoop hell monogamy is a social construct anyway. If they are both cool with it there really should be no problem. Another note, who cares if he's gay, bi or any point in between. If he is more power to him. I don't see why everyone is making such a big deal of this. I guess we are all Puritans at heart... If folks are gonna go around fucking whomever they want, what's the point of the marriage/commitment? Marriage says to me that you are 'mine'. Not 'mine' 'hers' and 'everybody else's'. | |
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missfee said: Moonwalkbjrain said: and God created condoms and it was goooood.... yeah and sometimes relationships, they tend to break.... [Edited 12/22/05 14:53pm]  What the fuck would Will do if Jada got knocked up by somebody else? | |
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meow85 said: missfee said: yep this is old, i heard this a while back....and while i can understand why they have an open marriage, it is also very disappointing, because you are telling me (my husband) that "i love you with all my heart, and no one will be in my heart but you, but do you mind if i stick my dick into some other women's pussy because....i just need to do it and she's hot.." My response would be "HELL TO THE NAW"
and if you need to do all that shit, then you need to stay single. While in a commitment with someone, i'll be damned before i have to "share" my man with the other women that he sees fit to fuck. i'm sorry but that's just foolish....
If all you're basing a relationship on is the fact that you only do the dirty with each other, that's pretty fucking sad, if you ask me. Be open or monogamous, just play it safe. Trust should be more important in a relationship than exclusivity. A couple with an open relationship is no less "maried" or "in love" or "together" than a couple that isn't.  WELL EVEN POOK KNOW IT BETTER WHEN YOU SAVE UP P o o |/, P o o |\ | |
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meow85 said: laurarichardson said: What does the God business have to do with marriage. What about your commitment to another person. What about saying in front of the entire world this is the person I want to be with for the rest of my life. What about your commitment? Not all marriage vows include the promise to be faithful. It is neither cheating nor disrespectful if both partners are aware of and approve of what's going on. Monogamy is not a prerequisite for a succesful relationship. What works for some, might not work for others, and vice versa. Why get married if it's an open relationship? Because a marriage is an emotional and mental partnership. The most important aspect in any marriage, open or not, is trust and love. If the couple trusts and loves one another it's a marriage, IMO -even if it's open or even if the couple were never legally "married". I'm not talking about anyone having affairs. That IS disrespectful and dishonest. That IS cheating, since obviously one of the partners is kept in the dark because they'd be upset or hurt by it. I don't know how I can make it clear to you that an open marriage is not disrespectful if both partners are all for it. I fail to see how you think shared consent equals disrespect. I have been married for 5 years so I do know what I am talking about it. So that makes you an expert an every relationship in the world, then? ----- "I fail to see how you think shared consent equals disrespect" I think shared consent is the road to ruin. People are human. You may think your okay with your companion sleeping with someone else but human nature is going to prove you wrong. However, some people enjoy drama and chaos. "So that makes you an expert an every relationship in the world, then?" No it means I know more about being married and being in a commited relationship than someone who has never been married or spends their time on open relationships. | |
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laurarichardson said: meow85 said: So that makes you an expert an every relationship in the world, then? ----- "I fail to see how you think shared consent equals disrespect" I think shared consent is the road to ruin. People are human. You may think your okay with your companion sleeping with someone else but human nature is going to prove you wrong. However, some people enjoy drama and chaos. "So that makes you an expert an every relationship in the world, then?" No it means I know more about being married and being in a commited relationship than someone who has never been married or spends their time on open relationships. You seem to know a lot about gay people, too. Following your logic, that means either your or your husband is gay. Which is it? | |
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laurarichardson said: ----- "I fail to see how you think shared consent equals disrespect" I think shared consent is the road to ruin. People are human. You may think your okay with your companion sleeping with someone else but human nature is going to prove you wrong. However, some people enjoy drama and chaos. Shared consent is the road to ruin? Care to elaborate on how you think doing what works best for both partners in the relationship is a horrible thing to do? People ARE human, and though humans are a pair-bonding species, we are not by nature strictly monogamous. If for one couple monogamy works and is reasonable to expect, and for their neighbouring couple it does not work and is not reasonable to expect though they love and trust each other beyond anyone else, how is the monogamous couple superior because they only bump uglies with each other? There's only drama and chaos if there's cheating and dishonesty. More people would be happy and in succesful relationships if there was honesty -maybe even the honesty to say that one sexual partner doesn't work for everybody. Your model of what a relationship should be works for you, and that's great. But it does not and will not work successfully for everyone, and everyone shouldn't try if they know the traditional mold isn't for them. "So that makes you an expert an every relationship in the world, then?"
No it means I know more about being married and being in a commited relationship than someone who has never been married or spends their time on open relationships. 
You keep on thinking that, Ms. Relationship Expert. Things are never simple enough for any one person to know what they're talking about. Of course I include myself in that. A collective with a variety of experiences, maybe. But one person with one narrow view? Nope. Sorry, Laura. You are no more expert just because you've got a piece of metal jammed on your finger than anyone else is. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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